Texsox Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) Interesting thought. But its wrong for the same reason its wrong for executives (which I have seen you yourself complain about) - you are rewarding bad behavior. I'll pass. Somehow this feels different than a CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 G-Rod to give his first post-arrest press conference at 2pm Chicago time today, at the Thompson Center, downtown. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 So did Obama lie, or did Emanuel lie to Obama? http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagoje...m18good.article Emanuel talked directly to gov: source DEEPER ROLE? | Pushed Jarrett for Senate seat Recommend (166) Comments December 18, 2008 BY NATASHA KORECKI Federal Courts Reporter [email protected] President-elect Barack Obama's incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had a deeper involvement in pressing for a U.S. Senate seat appointment than previously reported, the Sun-Times has learned. Emanuel had direct discussions about the seat with Gov. Blagojevich, who is is accused of trying to auction it to the highest bidder. Emanuel talked with the governor in the days following the Nov. 4 election and pressed early on for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett to the post, sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun-Times. There was no indication from sources that Emanuel brokered a deal, however. A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post. But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date. At least some of the conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were likely caught on tape, sources said. After Jarrett took herself out of the running in mid-November, Emanuel submitted a list of suitable names to the governor's camp that didn't include her name. Emanuel, who has refused to comment on the issue, is not accused of wrongdoing. In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) G-Rod to give his first post-arrest press conference at 2pm Chicago time today, at the Thompson Center, downtown. Should be interesting. he basically said that he's innocent and we're all just a bunch of haters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 07:32 AM) You must sing this (at least in your head) while reading to the tune of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen": Get packin', Rod Blagojevich The state's in disarray The Tribune wants you unemployed At least by Christmas Day The TV pundits want your head Could there be pay to play? O Tidings of Comfort and Joy, SAVE ILLINOIS! O Tidings of Comfort and Joy Good riddance, Rod Blagojevich Your Elvis look's inane The Senate's mad, so's Lisa's dad,, You drive us all insane Our transit's broke, the state's a joke, The Tollway's one big pain O Tidings of Comfort and Joy SAVE ILLINOIS! O Tidings of Comfort and Joy Good luck old Rod Blagojevich The feds have quite a place Fitzgerald's poked his nose around And if he has a case George Ryan's moving stuff around Creating extra space O Tidings of Comfort and Joy SAVE ILLINOIS! O Tidings of Comfort and Joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 A WGN radio host had a "publicity stunt" this morning outside the showcase studio. For a $1 donation to the Neediest Kids Fund, you could throw three shoes at a cardboard cutout of Blogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 This is AWESOME: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The soap opera rolls on... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1230657827...=googlenews_wsj By DAVID KESMODEL and DOUGLAS BELKIN CHICAGO -- Embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich plans to name Roland W. Burris, the former attorney general of Illinois, to fill the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by President-elect Barack Obama, a person familiar with the matter said. Gov. Blagojevich plans to make the announcement Tuesday afternoon. The choice is likely to face intense scrutiny because the governor faces federal corruption charges. The governor appears to be thumbing his nose at critics who have said the process allowing him to choose Mr. Obama's replacement should be circumvented. [Rod Blagojevich] Rod Blagojevich The governor was arrested Dec. 9 and accused of conspiring to sell Mr. Obama's Senate seat to the highest bidder, among other allegations. He has denied any wrongdoing and vowed to stay in office while fighting the charges. Mr. Burris is a 71-year-old African-American with many years of experience holding statewide offices in Illinois. The Democrat is a lawyer, registered lobbyist and a principal at Burris & Lebed Consulting LLC, a political and government-affairs consulting firm in Chicago. He served as state attorney general from 1991 to 1995. In November, Mr. Burris said he would accept an appointment to the Senate seat if chosen by the governor. But amid the cloud over Gov. Blagojevich, it's unclear whether Senate leaders would accede to the choice. The move also would represent an about-face for the governor. On Dec. 18, his criminal-defense lawyer, Ed Genson, said the governor would not appoint someone to fill the vacant seat. More * Lawyer Claims Lack of Evidence to Impeach * Discuss: Obama's response to the Blagojevich scandal? * Complete Coverage: Rod Blagojevich "[senate majority leader] Harry Reid said that they're not going to accept anybody he picks," Mr. Genson said at the time. "Why would he do that?" Sen. Reid, a Democrat from Nevada, said earlier this month that he backed efforts to circumvent the process allowing Gov. Blagojevich to make the appointment. He said, "it is clear that anyone Gov. Blagojevich appoints to the Senate will fairly or unfairly be tainted by questions of impropriety" and that a different process must be put in place. Mr. Burris ran unsuccessfully against Gov. Blagojevich in the Democratic primary race for governor in 2002. Mr. Burris, who hails from Centralia, Ill., became the first African-American elected to a statewide office in Illinois in 1978 when he became Illinois comptroller. Write to David Kesmodel at [email protected] and Douglas Belkin at [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Blagojevich is going to defy basically everyone out there and name a person to that Senate Seat it apperas. Roland Burris. The Senate Dems have already unanimously said that the would refuse to seat anyone named to that spot by Blagojevich, so he's now putting them on the spot it would appear. Wonder how much it cost. Gov. Blagojevich today is expected to name former state Comptroller and Attorney General Roland Burris to Illinois' vacant U.S. Senate seat, a knowledgeable source said this morning. A news conference is scheduled for 2 p.m. Former Illinois Attorney General Roland Burris, 71, had lobbied the governor for the position in recent weeks. Burris made a previous attempt at the Senate seat in the past -- unsuccessfully. In 1984, he was beat out for the Democratic nomination by Paul Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 09:47 AM) The soap opera rolls on... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1230657827...=googlenews_wsj That's what I get for typing that bit about the Senate refusing to seat him. Blah. You win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 So who actually thinks the state dems will step up and refuse this selection? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 They may not be able to legally. And frankly, if this guy isnt one of the prospective candidates named in the investigation, they shouldnt stop it. Illinois should have full Senate representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Oh this is going to be good Blago is the gift that keeps on giving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) They may not be able to legally. And frankly, if this guy isnt one of the prospective candidates named in the investigation, they shouldnt stop it. Illinois should have full Senate representation. Well, the impeachment panel is still out. They may be able to impeach the Governor before he formally makes his nomination, depending on how long things take. If he is impeached, its possible that Illinois law makes the governor legally impotent to make the nomination or do anything else. Its like a race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) Well, the impeachment panel is still out. They may be able to impeach the Governor before he formally makes his nomination, depending on how long things take. If he is impeached, its possible that Illinois law makes the governor legally impotent to make the nomination or do anything else. Its like a race. Even if blagojevich isn't impeached in time to stop a senate nomination, I don't see the senate Democrats taking the selection. It would be a public relations disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 At least bow out gracefully Blago, you are such an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 01:16 PM) At least bow out gracefully Blago, you are such an idiot. There is no graceful exit anymore. And remember, this guy still thinks if he'd indicted that he'd have a future political career at the national level. He's narcissistic and delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Senate Dems still saying they won't seat anyone Blagojevich names: Two Democratic officials tell CNN that Senate Democratic leaders are planning to block Blagojevich's appointment of Burris. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, has threatened not to seat anyone the governor appoints and has called for Blagojevich, a Democrat, to step down. In a statement released Tuesday, Reid said it was "truly regrettable that ... Gov. Blagojevich would take the imprudent step of appointing someone to the United States Senate who would serve under a shadow and be plagued by questions of impropriety." "We again urge Gov. Blagojevich to not make this appointment. It is unfair to Mr. Burris, it is unfair to the people of Illinois and it will ultimately not stand," Reid said. "The governor must put the interests of the people of Illinois and all Americans first by stepping aside now and letting his successor appoint someone who we will seat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) won't seat anyone Blagojevich names: letting his successor appoint someone who we will seat." Blago's crony Pat Quinn should appoint the senator? just as bad IMO. The senate should refuse to accept any appointment that comes from the Blagojevich crimal orgainzation Edited December 30, 2008 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Blogo Appointee Gave Blogo $$$ This is probably a LITTLE over critical, but worth noting. Rod Blagojevich's choice to fill Barack Obama's Senate seat, Roland Burris, helped raise money for the governor on multiple occasions. Blagojevich's choice is already being met with a steep wave of skepticism, because the embattled Illinois Governor was caught by the feds allegedly trying to auction off the seat to the highest bidder. Burris' ties to Blagojevich, despite his recent criticisms of the governor, seem destined to tarnish his appointment even further. The former Illinois Attorney General gave $4,500 to Blagojevich's campaign fund in the form of personal donations and donations from -- what appear to be -- him and his wife, according to Illinois State records. The most recent donation came on June 27, 2008, when the governor was knee-deep in charges of ethical misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 12:04 PM) Blago's crony Pat Quinn should appoint the senator? just as bad IMO. The senate should refuse to accept any appointment that comes from the Blagojevich crimal orgainzation If the Lt. Gov is also unqualified or corrupt, then it's the Illinois Legislature's job to remove them. The Senate can't just keep that seat vacant forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 10:44 AM) They may not be able to legally. And frankly, if this guy isnt one of the prospective candidates named in the investigation, they shouldnt stop it. Illinois should have full Senate representation. The Senate is fully within its rights to refuse to seat anyone based on whatever criteria they choose. And regardless of whether or not this particular candidate is connected to Blagojevich's scandal or not, when the scandal first broke, within 24 hours, the Senate Dems had released a strongly worded letter signed by every single dem in the Senate saying that they would refuse to seat anyone named to that seat by Blagojevich. That was the right thing to do, and regardless of who he named, following the policy they outlined is also the righ tmove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The Illinois Secretary of State is also saying he'll try to block the nomination by refusing to accept the paperwork. May not work, but guaranteed to result in a multi-month court challenge that if nothing else will hang everything up until the impeachment moves along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 30, 2008 -> 02:27 PM) If the Lt. Gov is also unqualified or corrupt, then it's the Illinois Legislature's job to remove them. The Senate can't just keep that seat vacant forever. A special election is the only reasonable solution to the empty senate seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) I saw the Blago press conference I would like to commend him; political theatre at it's finest. What a great pick, the senate Dems will have to consider the pick now or be accused of denying the only African-American senator (as Burris has been appointed) a senate seat. Edited December 30, 2008 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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