lostfan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Isn't the idea that Blago couldn't call his own witnesses a lie he made up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I have no idea. If he was allowed to call his own witnesses, why didnt he just give them a list of thousands of witnesses and stall the entire thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 10:51 AM) So does anyone have a clue if Blago can appeal the decision to the Supreme Court of Illinois? I read Article 4, Section 14 but it has no process for appeals. There is also no discussion of due process or the procedural aspects of the impeachment. Could there be an appeal based on the fact that Blago was denied due process when he could not bring in his own witnesses? His argument would rely primarily on the Illinois Constitution, specifically: Would an impeachment conviction be depriving him of life, liberty or property? Here is what the annotated Article 4, section 14 says: http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lru/ILConstitution.pdf So perhaps the 1997 rules are what they followed. After reading through that constitution, I think it's vague enough that the legislature can pretty much set whatever rules it wants (i.e. we're not going to let Blago's hair call any witnesses in its defense) and there really is no recourse. The Illinois Legislature appears to have an awful lot of power in this regard. There doesn't appear to be any mechanism for an appeal since it is not a criminal trial, and even if there was, since there's no requirement that the Governor has to have actually done anything other than piss off enough legislators, there really is no guarantee of any sort of due process in those proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) The House prosecutor sounded pissed off. And another one hour caucus break. Edited January 29, 2009 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 12:51 PM) So does anyone have a clue if Blago can appeal the decision to the Supreme Court of Illinois? I read Article 4, Section 14 but it has no process for appeals. There is also no discussion of due process or the procedural aspects of the impeachment. Could there be an appeal based on the fact that Blago was denied due process when he could not bring in his own witnesses? His argument would rely primarily on the Illinois Constitution, specifically: Would an impeachment conviction be depriving him of life, liberty or property? Here is what the annotated Article 4, section 14 says: http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lru/ILConstitution.pdf So perhaps the 1997 rules are what they followed. Impeachment is a legislative action, not a criminal trial. There is nothing to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 12:55 PM) Isn't the idea that Blago couldn't call his own witnesses a lie he made up? Yes. He was asked to appear and to bring witnesses, which he turned down, saying he didn't have enough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) The impression that I have gotten is that Blago is an utter disaster as a Govenor. The legislature simply needs to decide he is out but they need a 66% majority if I am correct. The system of checks and balances as a whole. The federal prosecution case is simply icing on the cake. Blago has been impeaching himself for the last six years by simply being the moron that he is. I am not certain as to why the stories of what a jagoff he is are not more common knowledge but I know first hand that the guy is a complete moron. Edited January 29, 2009 by Jenks Heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 03:07 PM) I am not certain as to why the stories of what a jagoff he is are not more common knowledge but I know first hand that the guy is a complete moron. I don't know about individual stories, but on this board, everyone pretty much knows he's a disaster and hates him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 02:10 PM) I don't know about individual stories, but on this board, everyone pretty much knows he's a disaster and hates him. Yeah, the [ass]hole is greater than the sum of his parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (The Critic @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) Yeah, the [ass]hole is greater than the sum of his parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 i didn't get an opportunity to hear blago's performance today. recap anyone? any hilarious highlights i should be aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Wow, even Hendon didnt have his back. SLAUGHTER, shut out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 He just got rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) Wow, even Hendon didnt have his back. SLAUGHTER, shut out The vote happened already? I'm watching something on CNN but I don't know what it is yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 04:27 PM) The vote happened already? I'm watching something on CNN but I don't know what it is yet. 59-0 vote to impeach him. they are about to vote whether he should ever hold political office in Illinois again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) edit: when I pulled this up, the first comment was about Blagojevich, lol. Edited January 29, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Is everyone seeing a picture of trophies on ABC channel 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Rod will never serve in a public office in Illinois ever ever again. 59-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 04:28 PM) edit: when I pulled this up, the first comment was about Blagojevich, lol. A true white sox send off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 If you go to www.illinois.gov and go to the state government page, the link to Blago's profile just takes you back to the homepage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jan 29, 2009 -> 04:39 PM) Rod will never serve in a public office in Illinois ever ever again. 59-0 there's always Minnesota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Did anyone see the interview with Blago after the vote, in front of his house? Truly, one of the most spectacularly bizarre pieces of politcal theater I've ever seen. Just awesome. I particularly loved "Say it ain't so!" kid that Blago dragged in front of the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 "The fix was in" "Will you still cover me if I have something to say, or is this the last hurrah?" Thanks Gov. In Texas, when we have a s***ty Governor, we get him a new job in Washington . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 07:19 AM) "The fix was in" "Will you still cover me if I have something to say, or is this the last hurrah?" Thanks Gov. In Texas, when we have a s***ty Governor, we get him a new job in Washington . . . The best part of that media part was that this line: "If I have something to say, will you show up, if I want you to? Because I have a lot to say" Was followed in less than 60 seconds by: "See, you guys in the media don't get it, but then I guess that's just the way you are" That is effing golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 07:21 AM) The best part of that media part was that this line: "If I have something to say, will you show up, if I want you to? Because I have a lot to say" Was followed in less than 60 seconds by: "See, you guys in the media don't get it, but then I guess that's just the way you are" That is effing golden. I seriously think he suffers from MPD. He is just all over the place. Worse than a 6 year old after 2 bags of cotton candy. I feel so bad for his daughters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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