Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 We all remember where we were on 6/7/05 when a terrorist regime of scouts and cross-checkers bombed the subways of Sox fans' hearts with the selection of Lance Broadway in the first round, 15th overall, of the 2005 MLB First-Year Player Draft. Let's all take a moment to click on this link and reflect upon all those great players that were needlessly passed over. We can never go back in time and change things for the better. What is done is done. But it is time, Kenny Williams, that you trade Lance Broadway for a bag of baseballs so we can all move on. I don't want to see him on the 40-man roster anymore because whenever I do I'm reminded of how we could have had Matt Garza, Ellsbury, Buccholz, Lowrie, Bowden, Volstad, Colby Rasmus, and on and on and on, because that's just the first round. Broadway was the most horrible draft pick I can remember, because at least McCulloch was taken near the very bottom after we'd won 99 games and the WS. Broadway was fifteenth!!!! That's f***ing sick. Please Kenny, get this guy out of here already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Ellsbury and Garza stick out like a sore thumb. Edited December 10, 2008 by rangercal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) We all remember where we were on 6/7/05 when a terrorist regime of scouts and cross-checkers bombed the subways of Sox fans' hearts with the selection of Lance Broadway in the first round, 15th overall, of the 2005 MLB First-Year Player Draft. Let's all take a moment to click on this link and reflect upon all those great players that were needlessly passed over. We can never go back in time and change things for the better. What is done is done. But it is time, Kenny Williams, that you trade Lance Broadway for a bag of baseballs so we can all move on. I don't want to see him on the 40-man roster anymore because whenever I do I'm reminded of how we could have had Matt Garza, Ellsbury, Buccholz, Lowrie, Bowden, Volstad, Colby Rasmus, and on and on and on, because that's just the first round. Broadway was the most horrible draft pick I can remember, because at least McCulloch was taken near the very bottom after we'd won 99 games and the WS. Broadway was fifteenth!!!! That's f***ing sick. Please Kenny, get this guy out of here already. So im guessing that you don't like that Lance is still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 :yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 what a draft that was for the red sox....ellsbury, buccholz, lowrie, bowden and hansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 2005 was really just an awesome draft year. (not for the White Sox mind you) I have a feeling that 2008 might just rival it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Lance Broadway? Where is the thread about Kyle McCulloch that should have been started long before this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 CJ Henry, Mark Pawelek, Marceaux, Greene, and Broadway are the only guys in the first 30 that I think you can definitely call busts. It's still early as these guys have only had time to play 3 full seasons since the draft, but from what we know so far, the 2005 draft was extremely deep and talented. How we ended up taking a guy like Broadway 15th overall just boggles my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think royce ring was a worse pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 03:47 PM) Lance Broadway? Where is the thread about Kyle McCulloch that should have been started long before this one? yeah seriously...at least broadway could potentially be a long man in the pen...mcculloch is just terrible...besides looking at that draft (and with most drafts) if you are picking the second half of the first round...theres good odds your pick won't amount to jack s***...and after broadway was taken, there isn't a whole lot of good from that draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) Lance Broadway? Where is the thread about Kyle McCulloch that should have been started long before this one? McCulloch was taken 29th overall in 2006. That was a horrid pick too, but not as bad as Broadway. The '05 draft was much deeper, at least it appears that way now, and we had a top-15 pick which is actually rare for the Sox. It's so valuable that you can sign a Type-A FA and still not lose it. And we used that to pick Broadway. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 How is Broadway a bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Talk about sick... How about the Blue Jays taking Ricky Romero with the 6th pick that year? Troy Tulowitski was picked next... has over 1000 MLB at-bats already... and Romero has been struggling the last 3 summers trying to keep his ERA below 5.00 in AA. Edited December 10, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Here are some of the notables selected after McCullogh: Preston Mattingly, Emmanuel Buriss, Adrian Cardenas, Joba Chamberlain, Chris Perez. Edited December 10, 2008 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) How is Broadway a bust? c'mon. I'm not harping on the pick, but the dude has been torched for two straight years in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) Talk about sick... How about the Blue Jays taking Ricky Romero with the 6th pick that year? Ah, the famous pick that turned Keith Law against every front office in the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) We all remember where we were on 6/7/05 when a terrorist regime of scouts and cross-checkers bombed the subways of Sox fans' hearts with the selection of Lance Broadway in the first round, 15th overall, of the 2005 MLB First-Year Player Draft. Let's all take a moment to click on this link and reflect upon all those great players that were needlessly passed over. We can never go back in time and change things for the better. What is done is done. But it is time, Kenny Williams, that you trade Lance Broadway for a bag of baseballs so we can all move on. I don't want to see him on the 40-man roster anymore because whenever I do I'm reminded of how we could have had Matt Garza, Ellsbury, Buccholz, Lowrie, Bowden, Volstad, Colby Rasmus, and on and on and on, because that's just the first round. Broadway was the most horrible draft pick I can remember, because at least McCulloch was taken near the very bottom after we'd won 99 games and the WS. Broadway was fifteenth!!!! That's f***ing sick. Please Kenny, get this guy out of here already. One thing I've never understood, how in the world was Broadway the "safe" pick that he's always refered? How about just horrible pick? I'd take a rosin bag that's out of rosin for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Broadway has still not even been remotely close to as bad as McCullouch. It's not like the Sox have given him much of a chance anyway. Who knows how much Wilder had to do with this. Bureau said he had a lot of American guys involved in the corrupt signings as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) Here are some of the notables selected after McCullogh: Preston Mattingly, Emmanuel Buriss, Adrian Cardenas, Joba Chamberlain, Chris Perez. Another guy referred as a safe pick. The only thing safe about these guys (McCullogh and Broadway) is the assumption that they will be busts. Edited December 10, 2008 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 03:54 PM) Broadway has still not even been remotely close to as bad as McCullouch. It's not like the Sox have given him much of a chance anyway. Who knows how much Wilder had to do with this. Bureau said he had a lot of American guys involved in the corrupt signings as well. I'd like to see McCulloch in middle relief up in AAA to see if we can salvage anything out of him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) How is Broadway a bust? Because he's never really been given a chance and since he will not be a #1/2 pitcher and people drafted behind him by other teams have panned out better/quicker he must suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:56 PM) Because he's never really been given a chance and since he will not be a #1/2 pitcher and people drafted behind him by other teams have panned out better/quicker he must suck. He hasn't gotten a chance because he gets lit up in Triple A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 2005 was still a decent draft for us. We got Getz, Cunningham, Cortes, Richard, Danks 2 (didn’t sign), and Christian Marrero. After Mccullogh we just got Shelby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think Danny Goodwin, picked #1 overall in 1971 was the worst sox pick ever. Check out the veritable suck-fest that has been White Sox 1st rounders (Larry Himes era exempted): http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?f...aft_type=junreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 12:54 PM) Ah, the famous pick that turned Keith Law against every front office in the MLB. ? I was stunned when Romero went 6th. I went to Fullerton and watched numerous games and loved Ricky to death as a college pitcher but really had no idea how or why anyone would have projected him as a top 10 pick. I figured he was more of a late 1st to supplmental round pick. He really only had one plus pitch (a nasty breaking ball). But he had a very slight build and didn't have the greatest zip on his fastball. In fact, I'd compare him a lot to JP Howell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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