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QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 10:56 PM)
Does anybody else hate Boers and Bernstein? I feel like they never know what they're talking about, nor does it seem like they even watch the games.

It's the exact opposite IMO. This town is full of retarded sports radio, B&B are the exception.

 

And Jackie Woo Woo is some woman who works in their building, can't remember if she works for the station or not, pretty sure she does.

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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 11:03 PM)
I have said it numerous times, but I love Bernstein, and can't stand Bores. I know it's Bores "Shtick" to be the bumbling old idiot, but whenever he does try and contribute anything of substance, he is just riding the coat tails of what Bernstein just said.

 

They should jump bump Goff up to Terry's spot. The show would be much better, IMO.

I agree with you but I think it works. Bernstein adds the intelligent commentary and Boers concurs, makes a fart joke, drops the name of some athlete from the 60's and calls himself an idiot. Nothing wrong with that.

 

I rarely find myself agreeing with Goff on baseball topics. I think Abatacola is more sensible when it comes to baseball.

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I like Goff when he calls out Boers and Bernstein for the jerks or idiots that might come across as. But usually he ends up sounding worse than either of them at some point.

As for B&B drop by guys, I wish Holmes was at a better time. He is by far one of the best talents in Chicago. His voice is great and his knowledge is great. Plus he knows how to handle callers and guests perfectly. He never comes across as arrogant, but always lets the people know when he seriously finds them at fault and himself correct.

Thank you for the answer to who Woo Woo is. I wasn't sure if she was just a worker there or if it was just another code name for a known personality (Johnny Cakes). I still am not too sure if she is a real person though, or just a figment of Terry's imagination.

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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 11:13 PM)
I don't want to come off as a baseball snob, but I know you especially agree with me that 99% of sports radio in terms of baseball is below the level at which we discuss it. It's still fun to listen to, but I'm certainly not gaining any new info(aside from rumors and such).

 

When the guys are getting on a roll about some random, off colored topic, I love when Goff drops in. However, if he was on too much, I may start to dislike him.

Yeah we've talked about this in the past and it's true, it's not snobbery, it's just the truth. We put a LOT more time into researching breaking down the game than they do because they're doing it for a living while we're doing it for fun. Plus we just care more, once you spend that much time around professional athletes and cover the teams you're not going to have that same desire for the club. Goff has actually said in the past that he doesn't spend a ton of time researching the game, he has a life and he's not going to spend all of his free time acquainting himself with every White Sox prospect or know every little thing about every player on their 40 man roster.

 

I found it humorous yesterday when B&B took a look at the Sox's top 10 prospects according to Baseball America, they didn't know who have the players were and I really don't expect them to. Boers was shocked to find out that John "T-Bone" Shelby's son played for a White Sox affiliate, now how many of us can give a pretty accurate scouting report on Shelby. Like 3 years ago Dan McNeil spent the first hour or so of his show discussing the pending free agency of Joe Crede, obviously he was mistaken, Crede was not a free agent and he knew absolutely nothing about arbitration years. It's because he doesn't have the same desire for knowledge and information as we do, they're just trying to entertain, not necessarily inform.

 

DISCLAIMER: I don't know if any of the prior 2 paragraphs actually make any sense, I'm doing a few things at the same time right now but I really wanted to get that out there. Sorry if it's written poorly.

 

B&B manage to entertain me without offending my sports sensitivities so I listen to them whenever I need a little background noise. MJ&H on the other hand offend me to my core, talk about pandering.

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QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 11:31 PM)
I like Goff when he calls out Boers and Bernstein for the jerks or idiots that might come across as. But usually he ends up sounding worse than either of them at some point.

As for B&B drop by guys, I wish Holmes was at a better time. He is by far one of the best talents in Chicago. His voice is great and his knowledge is great. Plus he knows how to handle callers and guests perfectly. He never comes across as arrogant, but always lets the people know when he seriously finds them at fault and himself correct.

Thank you for the answer to who Woo Woo is. I wasn't sure if she was just a worker there or if it was just another code name for a known personality (Johnny Cakes). I still am not too sure if she is a real person though, or just a figment of Terry's imagination.

Eh, most people that call into sports radio shows (especially B&B) are complete morons and it's more entertaining when they're made fun of and chastised than when they're coddled like with Mike Murphy and his callers, I find his condescending approach to be much more offensive, at least Bernstein will let you know when he thinks you're an idiot rather than playfully laughing you off the air then muttering something under his breath after you hang up (Murph).

 

When you call into a sports radio station b****ing that the Lovie doesn't show enough emotion or doesn't yell into his headset enough you deserve to be called an idiot.

 

On a side note: I thought Matt Abatacola's post game shows after each Cubs playoff loss this past season were very, very good. He really endeared himself to me with his thoughtful, well reasoned insight, he was excellent.

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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 11:48 PM)
The other thing you have to remember about B&B, and their style, is the callers are all part of the act. The screeners at the station look for dumb calls like that, because it makes for good radio. They obviously throw in the smart call every now and again, but when an idiot calls the station, and tells the screener "Hi, I'm Dale from Niles and I think Lovie isn't firey enough because he never yells on the sideline", the producers know Bernstein is going to tear him apart, so they put it through, because it makes people laugh(myself included).

Yep, it's all just entertainment. If they were discussing a more serious subject matter I could understand why people would be annoyed by their style but after all it's just sports radio.

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QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 11:40 PM)
Wrong.

 

Waddle & Silvy, FTW.

 

There is some pretty decent sports radio in chicago (especially since Mike North has gone bye-bye)

 

I can listen to any of the following, get my fix and be entertained:

 

Mac Jurko & Harry

Boers and Bernstein

Waddle & Silvy

Mully and Hannely

 

Chicago Sports Radio is currently about as good as I can remember.

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I can't stand Mac Jurko and Harry, they are like the stereotypical Chicago sports fans. I love Waddle and Silvy, and I think the perspective Mully and Hanley bring as sportswriters is a very good listen, especially in the morning. But B&B is the best show by far IMO, I mean their two "sidekicks" in Drinky and Goff are both hosts I like, let alone in the roles they are for that show. Plus I love the "schtick" B&B have. I wish Drink and/or Goff would get their own show, but that's for another day. I used to like Laurence Holmes a lot more, but since he got his own show (well, and teamed with Dan Hampton, who sucks big time), I am not as big a fan. He seems to have changed a bit in the last several months, and that is unfortunate.

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I like listening to B&B because they sound like they enjoy working together, and enjoy working with Goff and Abatacola. SOmetimes they are a little rough on their callers, but sometimes the callers are just mouth-breather hillbilly dumb. Boers may play up the bumbling idiot role, but I still love listening to his Roar of the Day

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QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Dec 11, 2008 -> 12:56 AM)
There is some pretty decent sports radio in chicago (especially since Mike North has gone bye-bye)

 

I can listen to any of the following, get my fix and be entertained:

 

Mac Jurko & Harry

Boers and Bernstein

Waddle & Silvy

Mully and Hannely

 

Chicago Sports Radio is currently about as good as I can remember.

i agree...in the past year or so sports talk radio in this city has gotten so much better.....i can't stand dan bernstein...while occasionally he adds intelligent commentary he mostly is just an obnoxious, arrogant dick and if anyone ever disagrees with him, he dismisses them as being an idiot...Boers is entering fred huebner territory of uselessness....im pretty sure the only thing he adds is a laugh that sounds like hes gasping for air just after bernstein makes fun of a caller....

 

Unfortunately that 2-6 time spot has become an entertainment show with both B&B and MJH, and its almost as if intelligent sports conversation takes a back seat to humor and entertaining

 

waddle and silvy are the gold standard....also there is some really really good stuff at night on either channel...IMO thats when the stations really cut the fluff and talk about sports

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QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 11, 2008 -> 02:08 AM)
I enjoy B&B, but Brian Paruch owns all.

Thank you.

 

I must be tired from finals, because I love "The King" and forgot all about mentioning him last night when I mentioned the shows I like. The Score is in pretty good shape when some of the older guys (Murph, Boers) step aside because Paruch and Goff and Drinky are all very good.

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