Jimmywins1 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...rtnerId=rss_nym "The Mariners receive right-handed pitcher Aaron Heilman, outfielder Endy Chavez and first baseman Mike Carp from the Mets, along with outfielder Franklin Gutierrez from the Indians. Second baseman Luis Valbuena will go the Indians, who also get right-handed pitcher Joe Smith from the Mets in the deal. Mariners right-handed reliever Sean Green and center fielder Jeremy Reed also are going to the Mets in the trade." Edited December 11, 2008 by Jimmywins1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I wonder what Shapiro was thinking going into this? No clear loss for him, but no real upgrade. Maybe he just stumbled into the room when Minaya and Z were negotiating and they felt obligated to include him? I’m guessing he was just a surrogate to get one piece moved for another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkmoney Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Putz's agent : "He's one of the top five or 10 closers in the game," Landis said. "No, he would not want to be a set-up man." this should be interesting. This trade is really hard to figure out just because there are so many players in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I can't ever remember a trade of this size (12 players), but i'm really interested in how the Mariner's roster is shaping up. THis New GM appears to know what's he doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Unless this Valbuena guy is interesting (I know nothing about him), I don't understand why the Indians would do this one. Gutierrez really seemed to put things together for the Tribe in the 2nd half of last season (.816 OPS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Valbuena's apparently a solid hitter, but his bat fits in best at 2B. The Indians outfield is pretty full with Sizemore, Choo, Francisco, Dellucci, and Crowe on his way too. I imagine all they are really doing is trading from a strength to try and fill a weakness, and in the process they pick up a solid reliever too. I have no problem with the deal from Cleveland's standpoint, but it's nothing groundbreaking either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Even though I think Putz is exactly what his name is, I like this deal for all three sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I give any three GMs credit for pulling off a three way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 For the Tribe... Not a bad deal. Moved an extra part for two extra parts. And they have a glut of 4th outfield types in their organization so Gutz was expendable. The Roogy could end up playing a useful role in their bullpen. The young 2B could end up in the lineup since it looks like the plan is to move Peralta to 3rd this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (bkmoney @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 11:52 PM) Putz's agent : "He's one of the top five or 10 closers in the game," Landis said. "No, he would not want to be a set-up man." this should be interesting. This trade is really hard to figure out just because there are so many players in it he wont be a setup man? well they have krod....so how does it make sense for the mets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I believe this also clears some room for LaPorta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Gutierrez is going to be the new long - term CF for the M's I believe, with Ichiro staying in RF. Maybe they'll go after Griffey for LF, or give that spot to Balentien. If he could put up an .775 OPS in Safeco, it's a decent enough deal for the M's. But still, they'll probably turn Morrow over as a closer now, and that really does waste some of his value, unless they go after a closer in FA. The Mets fans' in my office are raving about this deal acquiring Putz. Still, he'll probably walk after 2009 I'd imagine, considering he desperately wants to be a closer. It's actually a good deal from the White Sox's perspective also. A team that didn't need a closer acquired Putz, taking 1 less off the market, so the opportunity to shop Jenks is still there if KW wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 11, 2008 -> 11:08 AM) It's actually a good deal from the White Sox's perspective also. A team that didn't need a closer acquired Putz, taking 1 less off the market, so the opportunity to shop Jenks is still there if KW wants to. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And kept Putz from potentially ending up in Detroit. Thank you Mets!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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