bighurt4life Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 13, 2008 -> 12:06 PM) I'd put my money on Armstrong, for now. They'll overlook the Righty/Lefty thing if he swings the bat during spring training. People always assume that we need a righty to give AJ days off but his splits vs. righty/lefty are pretty much the same. We don't really need someone to face tough lefty's when AJ sits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Dec 14, 2008 -> 03:58 AM) People always assume that we need a righty to give AJ days off but his splits vs. righty/lefty are pretty much the same. We don't really need someone to face tough lefty's when AJ sits. The past 2 seasons? Sure. The first 9 years of his pro career? They tell a different tale, a tale of suck against left handed pitching, lots of suck in fact, like .248/.274/.350/.623 worth of suck. Now that's a lot of suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiteinphils Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Chris Coste! Phils just got Ronny Paulino and already had Carlos Ruiz as their main guy, with Lou Marson in AAA waiting in the wings. The odd guy out is Chris Coste who is a fine backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Still scratching my head as to why the DBacks took the catcher from the Tigers in the Rule 5...but they now have 3 catchers on there roster. I honestly doubt they'd find anybody to take Chris Snyder and his $1.85M salary...but I'd be interested in Miguel Montero. They need pitching badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 06:01 PM) Still scratching my head as to why the DBacks took the catcher from the Tigers in the Rule 5...but they now have 3 catchers on there roster. I honestly doubt they'd find anybody to take Chris Snyder and his $1.85M salary...but I'd be interested in Miguel Montero. They need pitching badly. If the Diamondbacks would be willing to give away Snyder for one of our s***ting AA/AAA pitching "prospects" I'd do it. At least Snyder has some good power and plate discipline against left handed pitching and can throw out >30% of would be basestealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I understand that the DBacks are in financial trouble, but there's no way they'd just up and give away a catcher that put up an .800 OPS in 400 or so PAs last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) I understand that the DBacks are in financial trouble, but there's no way they'd just up and give away a catcher that put up an .800 OPS in 400 or so PAs last year Snyder's salary is over $1.85M I believe...but on the flip side...he's a hell of a lot better than Toby for the money. Word out here was the DBacks were shopping Snyder anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 22, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) Snyder's salary is over $1.85M I believe...but on the flip side...he's a hell of a lot better than Toby for the money. Word out here was the DBacks were shopping Snyder anyway. Yeah Snyder would be a very good option to go for. My guess is the D-Backs would want some bullpen help or some young pitching in exchange for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Wonder what it would take to pry one of the Rangers' plethora of quality catching prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 11:18 AM) Wonder what it would take to pry one of the Rangers' plethora of quality catching prospects? Now that we've used one of our bullets to acquire Flowers, it makes little sense to acquire a quality prospect when all we need is a reasonable 1-2 year solution as a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 02:24 PM) Now that we've used one of our bullets to acquire Flowers, it makes little sense to acquire a quality prospect when all we need is a reasonable 1-2 year solution as a backup. I'm still not sold on Flowers sticking at catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) I'm still not sold on Flowers sticking at catcher. Even in that case, I think it makes little sense to pile up catching prospects until he proves he can't handle that spot. Simple way to look at it IMO: what would you rather have for the next 2 years. Someone else to fill the 4/5 starter role, or someone to fill the backup catcher role behind AJ if Flowers can't cut it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) Even in that case, I think it makes little sense to pile up catching prospects until he proves he can't handle that spot. Simple way to look at it IMO: what would you rather have for the next 2 years. Someone else to fill the 4/5 starter role, or someone to fill the backup catcher role behind AJ if Flowers can't cut it? Definitely the 4/5 starter role. Just dreaming a little. The Rangers are really loaded at catcher right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiteinphils Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 03:24 PM) Now that we've used one of our bullets to acquire Flowers, it makes little sense to acquire a quality prospect when all we need is a reasonable 1-2 year solution as a backup. Chris Coste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) I'm still not sold on Flowers sticking at catcher. the Sox don't really seem to care about defense behind the plate so long as he produces. AJ Pierzynski definitely isn't good defensively, but he hits and he handles pitchers. That's all Flowers has to show the capability of doing. If he does that, he's golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiteinphils Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 06:04 AM) the Sox don't really seem to care about defense behind the plate so long as he produces. AJ Pierzynski definitely isn't good defensively, but he hits and he handles pitchers. That's all Flowers has to show the capability of doing. If he does that, he's golden. I'm going to keep saying Chris Coste until someone sees me. What you all are describing is exactly what Chris Coste is... he's decent defensively but has the ability to hit .280+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Chris Coste. I completely agree. I was hoping the Sox would get him when they signed Toby Hall. Coste would be perfect for the Sox. And, he'd come as cheap as anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 06:07 PM) Chris Coste. I completely agree. I was hoping the Sox would get him when they signed Toby Hall. Coste would be perfect for the Sox. And, he'd come as cheap as anyone. Synder is getting an extension from the Dbacks. I wonder why we haven't heard anything about the sox making an offer to Henry Blanco at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 QUOTE (joeynach @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 07:46 PM) Synder is getting an extension from the Dbacks. I wonder why we haven't heard anything about the sox making an offer to Henry Blanco at this point. Give me Henry Blanco for one year and I'll be a happy camper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Henry Blanco's brother was murdered in Venezuela about 3 weeks ago, I assume that has something to do with the lack of rumors involving Hank White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 QUOTE (philadelphia sox fan @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 09:57 AM) I'm going to keep saying Chris Coste until someone sees me. What you all are describing is exactly what Chris Coste is... he's decent defensively but has the ability to hit .280+ He's a great fit; I don't see the Sox having the desire to give up any pieces for a backup catcher though, unless Philadelphia would take MacDougal for him. They've never given much effort into getting a good backup catcher, so I don't think they would now. I see it as Blanco, Miller, or Stewart as of this moment, with the favorites obviously being Miller and Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 25, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) He's a great fit; I don't see the Sox having the desire to give up any pieces for a backup catcher though, unless Philadelphia would take MacDougal for him. They've never given much effort into getting a good backup catcher, so I don't think they would now. I see it as Blanco, Miller, or Stewart as of this moment, with the favorites obviously being Miller and Stewart. Throw Lucy in there as an off chance. If he can be healthy enough by ST to play the same way he did in 2008 at AAA, then he's what he was then - looking ready to be AJ's backup. I have no idea what the chances are of that, though. Not great I'm sure, but not zero either. I haven't been able to get any info on Donny's situation since the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 25, 2008 -> 07:40 PM) Throw Lucy in there as an off chance. If he can be healthy enough by ST to play the same way he did in 2008 at AAA, then he's what he was then - looking ready to be AJ's backup. I have no idea what the chances are of that, though. Not great I'm sure, but not zero either. I haven't been able to get any info on Donny's situation since the summer. I would guess it's closer to zero than 50/50. It's a tough break for Lucy, but from the sounds of it, it's a pretty devastating injury. Those odds aren't long-term...I have no idea what type of character person Lucy is or how hard he works, so I can't comment in that regard, but if he's a hard worker, I imagine he'll get a shot at some point in time in some organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 25, 2008 -> 07:40 PM) Throw Lucy in there as an off chance. If he can be healthy enough by ST to play the same way he did in 2008 at AAA, then he's what he was then - looking ready to be AJ's backup. I have no idea what the chances are of that, though. Not great I'm sure, but not zero either. I haven't been able to get any info on Donny's situation since the summer. Dislocated knee caps pretty much jack you up forever. It's one of those injuries that becomes more likely to re-occur when/every time it happens. It's happened to me many times, and it sucks horribly every time. Unless he got surgery and REALLY works his ass off to rehab it, it's unlikely he'll ever be a MLB catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
266344 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Ivan Rodriguez, Pudge II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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