DaTank Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 The Dodgers, White Sox and Mets could be possibilities for Jon Garland, who's two years younger than Burnett with a better lifetime record (106-89) but not nearly as coveted as a free agent. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...an.scoop/1.html If you want me to add a choice to the poll, let me know. Just don't be asses about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Obviously Garland would fit back into our rotation perfectly with the emergence of Danks and Floyd. It would give Ozzie the flexibility to have a L,R,L,R,L rotation the entire season. If Stone is right and the market drops in January i would love to have Garland for $8 million/season with incentives. . But im guessing he gets nothing less than 10 mill/season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 It was kinda sad to see him go because he was finally putting it all together. He's not what everyone thought he would be, but he's good enough and I'll gladly welcome him back for the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 12:39 PM) i would love to have Garland for $8 million/season with incentives Agreed. But despite sucking last season and never coming close to repeating 2005, my guess is that he won't take a pay-cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 02:39 PM) Obviously Garland would fit back into our rotation perfectly with the emergence of Danks and Floyd. It would give Ozzie the flexibility to have a L,R,L,R,L rotation the entire season. If Stone is right and the market drops in January i would love to have Garland for $8 million/season with incentives. . But im guessing he gets nothing less than 10 mill/season... I think about $8-10 mil/season is about the price for an innings eater pitcher these days. I really wouldn't mind going $10/season, but for no more than 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOAD is GOD Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 What would we lose as far as compensation goes? Our Cabrera pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (GLOAD is GOD @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) What would we lose as far as compensation goes? Our Cabrera pick? Garland is a type B free agent so we'd lose nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (GLOAD is GOD @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) What would we lose as far as compensation goes? Our Cabrera pick? He's Type B, meaning we lose nothing. Only the Angels pick up a sandwich pick between the 1 and 2 round, but the team signing him loses NOTHING. Our compensation for Cabrera is completely dependent on which or if any team signs him, depending on where that team picks and when OCab is signed, with a guaranteed sandwich pick. Also, if no one signs him, we do not receive picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 08:52 PM) Garland is a type B free agent so we'd love nothing. that's pretty pessimistic kalapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 If you could get him on a 1 year deal, I would be interested in doing that. I think Marquez would be best served starting the season out in AAA, and going the Gavin Floyd route back up to Chicago. Poreda and Richard would battle for the 5th starters job, and if either fails, you've got Marquez and hopefully a healthy Contreras waiting in the wings. Garland could have an ERA around the high 4's, but he'd also eat 180 innings for you at least, which is something this rotation probably needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) that's pretty pessimistic kalapse. I would welcome Jon back with open arms. No question about it, he'd be an EXCELLENT 4th starter. Buehrle Floyd Danks Garland winner of the job That makes our entire rotation's outlook much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 We should keep in mind that Garland is coming off his worst statistical year, in what is assumed to be a pitchers ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'd love to have Garland back on a 2 to 3 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:01 PM) If you could get him on a 1 year deal, I would be interested in doing that. I think Marquez would be best served starting the season out in AAA, and going the Gavin Floyd route back up to Chicago. Poreda and Richard would battle for the 5th starters job, and if either fails, you've got Marquez and hopefully a healthy Contreras waiting in the wings. Garland could have an ERA around the high 4's, but he'd also eat 180 innings for you at least, which is something this rotation probably needs. I'm not counting on crap from Marquez...this year or next. I'm just not seeing it. As for Jon...I'd do a 2-year-20M...give Poreda first shot and have Richard in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:05 PM) I'm not counting on crap from Marquez...this year or next. I'm just not seeing it. As for Jon...I'd do a 2-year-20M...give Poreda first shot and have Richard in the pen. Just personal opinion, but I really think Poreda should spend ATLEAST the start of the year in AAA, I jsut think he should work on his changeup more. Im salivating over what he could become if he got his slider and changeup both up to atleast average pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I see no reason not to welcome him back if the money was right. I'd say market value is around 10 mil per season for a pitcher like him. He'd be an excellent 4th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Plus the Sox are counting on a lot of young arms and it would be nice knowing you have two pretty good innings eaters in Buehrle/Garland in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Sign me up for the Bring Back Garland group, as long as it's not for a ridiculous amount of money. He didn't necessarily leave on bad terms, and I was always a pretty big fan of him. I think he's just what we need in that 4th starter spot, someone who's going to do a good job of keeping the ball in the park and eat up a ton of innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) Sign me up for the Bring Back Garland group, as long as it's not for a ridiculous amount of money. He didn't necessarily leave on bad terms, and I was always a pretty big fan of him. I think he's just what we need in that 4th starter spot, someone who's going to do a good job of keeping the ball in the park and eat up a ton of innings. He gave up 23 homeruns last season in a pitcher's park and failed to throw 200 innings. There's also that knot in his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 I think bringing Garland back would make Marquez better. I've read that Marquez is a Jon Garland type of pitcher, and maybe Jon could show him a thing or two with his sinker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:22 PM) He gave up 23 homeruns last season in a pitcher's park and failed to throw 200 innings. There's also that knot in his shoulder. 2 more red flags for Garland; AWAY - 5.94 ERA, .332 BAA Post ASB - 5.99 ERA, .322 BAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (WCSox @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) Agreed. But despite sucking last season and never coming close to repeating 2005, my guess is that he won't take a pay-cut. He'll probably have to no matter what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:26 PM) 2 more red flags for Garland; AWAY - 5.94 ERA, .332 BAA Post ASB - 5.99 ERA, .322 BAA 2008 was the worst year of his career statistically. 3rd highest WHIP (1.50) of any starter with at least 180 IP last season. The only starter to allow more hits than Garland last season was Buehrle and that was in 22 more innings pitched. If the Sox are going to have a rotation that includes both Buehrle and Garland then they better make sure the team defense is some of the best in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:26 PM) 2 more red flags for Garland; AWAY - 5.94 ERA, .332 BAA Post ASB - 5.99 ERA, .322 BAA He also begged off the Angels postseason roster. That'd go well with Ozzie, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:22 PM) He gave up 23 homeruns last season in a pitcher's park and failed to throw 200 innings. There's also that knot in his shoulder. 18 Home Starts, 11 HR 14 Road Starts, 12 HR He had to face the Texas offense 3 times (5 HR in those 3 starts), and was a hole 3.1 IP from reaching 200. Like I said, I'd welcome him back as 4th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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