witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:14 PM) Do you really think that Giambi will take that large of a pay cut from his what - $18 million last year? yeah...he is 38. I don't think he's going to go for like $3 million, but somewhere around $7-10 million for 1 year makes perfect sense to me for Giambi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) yeah...he is 38. I don't think he's going to go for like $3 million, but somewhere around $7-10 million for 1 year makes perfect sense to me for Giambi. That's not exactly cheap for a 38 year old, former steroid user, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) yeah...he is 38. I don't think he's going to go for like $3 million, but somewhere around $7-10 million for 1 year makes perfect sense to me for Giambi. Absolutely. There just isn't a market for him. He's reached the point that no team will consider him to be their full-time 1B. I see a $6-8 mil, one year contract (+incentives) with either a team option or vesting option. Edited December 24, 2008 by sircaffey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:22 PM) That's not exactly cheap for a 38 year old, former steroid user, though. for an .875 OPS, that's cheap as hell. Thome's making $13 million this year and that's about what he put up last season. And who gives a s*** if he's a former steroid user, he's apologized for it and he's still a productive player. I want Barry Bonds on the Sox and he's the poster child for steroid use, but if they signed him, he'd put up sickass numbers for them and they'd be contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:24 PM) Absolutely. There just isn't a market for him. He's reached the point that no team will consider him to be their full-time 1B. I think it's down to either Tampa or Oakland and he'll take whichever team gives him the most money. That, or he can just retire, seeing as how he's loaded after the deal he signed with the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:24 PM) for an .875 OPS, that's cheap as hell. Thome's making $13 million this year and that's about what he put up last season. And who gives a s*** if he's a former steroid user, he's apologized for it and he's still a productive player. I want Barry Bonds on the Sox and he's the poster child for steroid use, but if they signed him, he'd put up sickass numbers for them and they'd be contenders. I honestly don't give a damn that he's used steroids, it's the fact that it starts breaks down the body after so much use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) I honestly don't give a damn that he's used steroids, it's the fact that it starts breaks down the body after so much use. and it's a 1-year commitment. No team should be afraid of his body breaking down that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) and it's a 1-year commitment. No team should be afraid of his body breaking down that badly. Especially considering he'll be a full-time DH. He probably won't even bring a glove to the ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) and it's a 1-year commitment. No team should be afraid of his body breaking down that badly. QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:28 PM) Especially considering he'll be a full-time DH. He probably won't even bring a glove to the ballpark. I will gracefully accept defeat in this discussion. Edited December 24, 2008 by jenks45monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) I can see the North side team trying to get Matsui Does anyone know if the payroll of just the Yankee infield is more than several TEAMS total payroll in mlb? Edited December 24, 2008 by klaus kinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:47 PM) I can see the North side team trying to get Matsui Does anyone know if the payroll of just the Yankee infield is more than several TEAMS total payroll in mlb? to answer your question, yes it is. ARod's at $32 mill, Jeter's at $20 mill, Teixeira will be at probably $20 mill, and Cano is making $6 mill...$78 million between the 4 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) If you want to spend like a coke whore, there's consequences for it. Coke whores get by on BJs and very little cash. The Rays used the same formula and made it to the World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If the NYY stand pat they won't run away with this division. the Rays and Red Sox are still two very good teams. I'm not saying the Yankees haven't made some good signings, but Captain Clutch is another year older, there's no guarantee Cano is going to bounce back, 2 out of the last 3 years Matsui hasn't played over 100 games and Mussina had a crazy year last year where he pitched better than CC did when CC was with Cleveland, so that was a major hole for the Yankees to fill from last years rotation. There's no doubt they'll be up there and have made some solid moves, but that AL East is still crazy talented and, to this point, I don't see the NYY running away with anything. Now if they sign Manny I take back all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hilarious reading this thread. "He's good not great, the yanks are average at best." A Whole lotta jealousy and sour grapes in here. Tex is a hell of a player and a top 3 guy at his position. It was a good addition, and the money doesnt hurt them, so who cares how much he makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 09:48 AM) Hilarious reading this thread. "He's good not great, the yanks are average at best." A Whole lotta jealousy and sour grapes in here. Tex is a hell of a player and a top 3 guy at his position. It was a good addition, and the money doesnt hurt them, so who cares how much he makes. I agree, don't take my last post to say the Yankees aren't going to be an excellent team this year, I think Tex is probably the best signing out of the big 3. I'm just trying to point out that they had some flaws last year and Mussina's perfornamce last year was outstanding and they lost that and had to fill it, which they did a more than ample job doing with CC. I'm just trying to point out don't enscribe their name on the AL East or the WS trophy just yet. But again, if they sign Manny, it's going to be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 09:48 AM) Hilarious reading this thread. "He's good not great, the yanks are average at best." A Whole lotta jealousy and sour grapes in here. Tex is a hell of a player and a top 3 guy at his position. It was a good addition, and the money doesnt hurt them, so who cares how much he makes. Tex is a very good player, but not 180 million dollars worth. But I guess if you got the money, why the hell not? I personally don't believe in their philosophy, but whatever. They have added at least two guys who will make a difference for them. The jury is still out on A.J. Burnett. Even if he does stay healthy, which one is gonna show up, the good one or the bad one? Edited December 24, 2008 by BearSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 09:28 PM) Especially considering he'll be a full-time DH. He probably won't even bring a glove to the ballpark. Glove? What glove? The one Giambi had in New York was full of holes. Edited December 24, 2008 by scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 08:47 AM) Coke whores get by on BJs and very little cash. The Rays used the same formula and made it to the World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 boy if you thought ESPN was annoying now, just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I predict the Rays will win the AL East once again.... as Upton said "We are ballers with a budget..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 09:47 AM) Coke whores get by on BJs and very little cash. The Rays used the same formula and made it to the World Series. Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) boy if you thought ESPN was annoying now, just wait. I gave up on ESPN for good last year. I only watch now when there's games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 24, 2008 -> 09:48 AM) Hilarious reading this thread. "He's good not great, the yanks are average at best." A Whole lotta jealousy and sour grapes in here. Tex is a hell of a player and a top 3 guy at his position. It was a good addition, and the money doesnt hurt them, so who cares how much he makes. I've got no problem admitting I'm jealous. A team that won 89 games last year just signed a CY candidate, a supremely talented, flame-throwing RH who led the AL in strikeouts last year, and the second best all-around first baseman in baseball. Who's next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Yanks are going crazy. Hope we take some of that luxury tax and do something with it. We got to add some pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 23, 2008 -> 04:36 PM) Gracias. No doubt about it their best bet is to trade either Matsui or Damon. I can't see them getting much in return for either of them, though. They won't trade Damon, they need a leadoff guy and he was pretty productive in 2008. Matsui they would love to trade, but they would have to eat a lot of contract to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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