MHizzle85 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (shipps @ May 30, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) Greinke? I thought his was depression as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ May 30, 2009 -> 11:02 AM) I thought his was depression as well? Yeah, I remember that as depression, they don't give details, but it sounded like he got real bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ May 30, 2009 -> 11:40 AM) Yeah, I remember that as depression, they don't give details, but it sounded like he got real bad Greinke was diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder and depression. Not unusual to see those two things occur together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 29, 2009 -> 07:47 PM) Chris Davis: 0-4 4 K's, 75 K's in 162 at-bats so far this year. Still has to play in game 2 right now. EDIT: Game 2, 0-3, 2 K's. 77 K's in 165 at-bats. I never understood why Hawk drooled over this guy so much. He's a bad player. He's got some big time pop, but he only makes contact a little over half the time. At best, he's a backup CI who can pinch hit late in a game when you need a home run. With Smoak tearing up AA, odds are he could be called up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Pujols currently has more RBIs (122) with the bases loaded than he does plate appearances (118). This is an extremely rare occurence, to say the least. Also, jose paniagua is one of only nine pitchers to balk in their first two games, all nine coincidentially made their debuts in the national league. Bartolo colon had a string of 30 starts from 2004-06-06 until 2005-05-07 in which he recorded a decision. This ties him for the 14th longest such streak. Colon is the last pitch to do this since ron guidry from 1983-04-12 1984-04-03. Colon had 1 complete game during this time span, the next lowest during any given streak was 11 by stan bahnsen from 1973-05-30 until 1974-04-06. Colon was 18-12 during that span. Fergie jenkins tops the list with 63 straight decisions from 1970-04-22 until 1971-08-07, in which he went 40-23, threw 46 complete games, for a grand total of 518 innings. Edited May 31, 2009 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 30, 2009 -> 02:26 PM) I never understood why Hawk drooled over this guy so much. He's a bad player. He's got some big time pop, but he only makes contact a little over half the time. At best, he's a backup CI who can pinch hit late in a game when you need a home run. With Smoak tearing up AA, odds are he could be called up soon. Same reason he drools over Gomez I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (qwerty @ May 31, 2009 -> 04:05 AM) Pujols currently has more RBIs (122) with the bases loaded than he does plate appearances (118). This is an extremely rare occurence. Also, jose paniagua is one of only nine pitchers to balk in their first two games, all nine coincidentially made their debuts in the national league. Alexei Ramirez - 25 PAs, 30 RBIs Obviously not trying to compare Alexei to the best offensive player in the game, but just saying, yeah I love Alexei when the bases are loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ May 31, 2009 -> 03:50 AM) Alexei Ramirez - 25 PAs, 30 RBIs Obviously not trying to compare Alexei to the best offensive player in the game, but just saying, yeah I love Alexei when the bases are loaded. I meant to put with ''a substantial amount of plate appearances''. I f***ed that up. From 25 to 50, 50 to 100, 100 to 200, etc, is simply a ginormous difference. 12 active hitters (they have all played at some point this season) have more strikeouts in their careers than base hits. All of these hitters have more than than 250 hits and less than 2100 hits... so who are they? There are 5 players that i would be shocked if they are not guessed correctly. Edited May 31, 2009 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (qwerty @ May 31, 2009 -> 05:29 AM) I meant to put with ''a substantial amount of plate appearances''. I f***ed that up. From 25 to 50, 50 to 100, 100 to 200, etc, is simply a ginormous difference. 12 active hitters (they have all played at some point this season) have more strikeouts in their careers than base hits. All of these hitters have more than than 250 hits and less than 2100 hits... so who are they? There are 5 players that i would be shocked if they are not guessed correctly. Jim Thome is one without a doubt, I'd also guess Ryan Howard and Nick Swisher. Does Juan Uribe count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I expected a breakout year from Adam Jones but I was thinking more along the lines of about a .290 average, 3-4 homers, and about a .850 OPS going into the summer. I didn't notice that he had 11 HRs. I didn't even know he has that much power potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Angels came all the way back after being down 8-0. That also helped me win my fantasy game this week as well. 3-0 for the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 31, 2009 -> 01:52 PM) Jim Thome is one without a doubt, I'd also guess Ryan Howard and Nick Swisher. Does Juan Uribe count? Adam Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I thought it was classless of the way the Pirates mascot showed up Charlie Brown when Charlie threw out the first pitch before the Pirates game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2009 -> 07:46 PM) Adam Dunn. Yeah that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (qwerty @ May 31, 2009 -> 04:29 AM) 12 active hitters (they have all played at some point this season) have more strikeouts in their careers than base hits. All of these hitters have more than than 250 hits and less than 2100 hits... so who are they? There are 5 players that i would be shocked if they are not guessed correctly. Your parameters seem off to me. Because . . . Tony Clark David Ross Mark Reynolds Carlos Pena Miguel Olivo Jim Thome BJ Upton Bill Hall Adam Dunn Wilson Betemit Russell Branyan Nick Swisher Jose Bautista Ryan Howard Chris Young Jason LaRue Jack Cust Rickie Weeks Brandon Inge Johh Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Is there a more underrated player in all of baseball right now than Adrian Gonzalez ( he hit his ML leading 20th HR yesterday)? This dude is fantastic. He's surrounded by a bunch of scrubs (other than Scott Hairston), and he's putting up ridiculous MVP-like numbers playing half his games in the most pitcher-friendly ballpark in baseball. Why this guy doesn't get the 2001-2004 Bonds treatment is beyond me. Edited June 1, 2009 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 01:06 AM) Is there a more underrated player in all of baseball right now than Adrian Gonzalez ( he hit his ML leading 20th HR yesterday)? This dude is fantastic. He's surrounded by a bunch of scrubs (other than Scott Hairston), and he's putting up ridiculous MVP-like numbers playing half his games in the most pitcher-friendly ballpark in baseball. Why this guy doesn't get the 2001-2004 Bonds treatment is beyond me. He doesn't get the Bonds treatment because no one else is gonna make him pay for doing so & even if they pitch to him, it's likely that he'll be the only one contributing something to the team. Frankly, if I'm San Diego this is the guy I try to move. I would think he would bring you more back than Peavy would at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 01:50 AM) He doesn't get the Bonds treatment because no one else is gonna make him pay for doing so & even if they pitch to him, it's likely that he'll be the only one contributing something to the team. Frankly, if I'm San Diego this is the guy I try to move. I would think he would bring you more back than Peavy would at this point. They aren't interested in rebuilding, they are interested in shedding salary. Peavy averages like $17+ mill per season over the next 3 plus the $22 mill option or a $4 mill buyout; that's about twice per season than what Adrian Gonzalez is going to make in the next 3 years combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 31, 2009 -> 07:57 PM) Your parameters seem off to me. Because . . . Tony Clark David Ross Mark Reynolds Carlos Pena Miguel Olivo Jim Thome BJ Upton Bill Hall Adam Dunn Wilson Betemit Russell Branyan Nick Swisher Jose Bautista Ryan Howard Chris Young Jason LaRue Jack Cust Rickie Weeks Brandon Inge Johh Buck Like i told kalapse earlier today... i screwed this up. It is supposed to be all non-pitchers to have 100+ strikeouts compared to hits... and there are only eleven currently... though dave ross will make twelve any day now. Ross has 267 hits compared to 366 strikeouts. So sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I love me some Colby Rasmus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 SPLITS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Season 32 83 5 26 5 1 0 9 3 15 0 1 .313 .333 .398 .731 Certain 3B in NL Guess who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (tommy @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) SPLITS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Season 32 83 5 26 5 1 0 9 3 15 0 1 .313 .333 .398 .731 Certain 3B in NL Guess who? close to Juan's, but they're not, unless those are after today's game, nope the 1 strikeout would take him out of that running Edited June 3, 2009 by SoxFan562004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 11:19 PM) close to Juan's, but they're not, unless those are after today's game Got it. It's from ESPN not sure if today's game is included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 QUOTE (tommy @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 11:20 PM) Got it. It's from ESPN not sure if today's game is included. ah, OK, the way they were on your post they didn't lineup well, but yeah, it looks like they include today and baseball-reference did not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 does anyone else find it sad that Roy Halladay's 133 pitches thrown tonight is the most by any pitcher in the MLB since last year? Hawk and Stone were talking about it today, and it's really stupid how pitchers are babied now and in result, some pitchers actually lose stuff and have their arms weakened. I agree with Stone 100%. While maybe you shouldn't work pitchers as much as you did 20-30 years ago and beyond, there's no reason why pitchers shouldn't be able to average at least 120 pitches a game and even get up into the 150 range. I understand you want to be cautious with all the money that goes to pitchers, but more and more teams will hopefully go to a more old school way of thinking when it comes to developing pitchers. With guys right out of high school, you could/should baby them some. However, once they turn 20 or 21, there is no reason why they can't average 120 a game and not only stay healthy but build up their arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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