caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 According to SI.com's Jon Heyman: The Giants appear to be taking a close look at free-agent third baseman Joe Crede. They've reviewed Crede's medical report and don't appear discouraged about pursuing him. It seems likely that Crede can be had on a one-year deal; Scott Boras has done many such contracts to rebuild value. He'd be another excellent short-term addition for the Giants, who are remaking the team through smart free agent signings. Crede would complement new shortstop Edgar Renteria, who is well below average on plays to his right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 It'd be fun to see Crede reunited with Rowand. Hell, if we trade Konerko to the Giants (assuming that Rowand isn't part of the return) they can have an nice little fiesta in Frisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) The irony is that they're looking to trade Rowand (among others) in order to bring Manny Ramirez on board, largely because Rowand is one of their more expensive players now. Aaron has never been able to find either a guaranteed starting position or a team he can get really comfortable with for 3-5 years, for whatever reason. He's one of those players like DeJesus with the Royals that's borderline really good, but certainly not the pretty good you pay $10+ million per season to acquire. Edited January 2, 2009 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 12:27 PM) The irony is that they're looking to trade Rowand (among others) in order to bring Manny Ramirez on board, largely because Rowand is one of their more expensive players now. Aaron has never been able to find either a guaranteed starting position or a team he can get really comfortable with for 3-5 years, for whatever reason. He's one of those players like DeJesus with the Royals that's borderline really good, but certainly not the pretty good you pay $10+ million per season to acquire. Rowand has one of those contracts that will be next to impossible to unload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (beck72 @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 07:08 AM) Rowand has one of those contracts that will be next to impossible to unload. It will be bad contract for bad contract if the Giants unload Aaron at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 You could argue the merits of Torii Hunter (I think he's in for a big decline over the life of that contract, just like Soriano), but we were really pretty lucky not to end up with the contract of Fukudome (who the White Sox could still pursue if the Cubs will eat salary) or Rowand. And hopefully Viciedo will come close to approximating Miguel Cabrera Lite (I know, a tall order), but at least we didn't have to part with our future in order to obtain Miggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO2005 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 07:57 AM) You could argue the merits of Torii Hunter (I think he's in for a big decline over the life of that contract, just like Soriano), but we were really pretty lucky not to end up with the contract of Fukudome (who the White Sox could still pursue if the Cubs will eat salary) or Rowand. And hopefully Viciedo will come close to approximating Miguel Cabrera Lite (I know, a tall order), but at least we didn't have to part with our future in order to obtain Miggy. I would of parted our future for Miggy! That guy is a stud and at the cell would hit 50 hr's...You know what you are getting with Miggy, but you don't know what you are getting with Viciedo. We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 2009 Giants = 2008 Miami Dolphins? They went from worst to first with unnoticable free agent signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Things are so slow with the White Sox that we're talking Giants rumors... This morning on MLB radio, Ken Rosenthal said the Giants do have interest in signing Manny, however, he's heard that Manny does not want to play in San Fran (top choices being LAD and NYY). He's said to be looking for 3 years at $25MM a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 08:19 AM) I would of parted our future for Miggy! That guy is a stud and at the cell would hit 50 hr's...You know what you are getting with Miggy, but you don't know what you are getting with Viciedo. We'll see We tried. Detroit trumped us with their offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 09:19 AM) I would of parted our future for Miggy! That guy is a stud and at the cell would hit 50 hr's...You know what you are getting with Miggy, but you don't know what you are getting with Viciedo. We'll see We didn't have anything close to Cameron Maybin in our system. Nor Andrew Miller, although I now think Poreda has a chance to equal or better him. And for Cabrera to play somewhere on our team, we'd have to somehow get rid of Dye or Thome, or play him at 3B, which has been proven to be quite a lousy idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (beck72 @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 01:08 PM) Rowand has one of those contracts that will be next to impossible to unload. Free agent signings and money involved are out of control. Teams now sould be seeing the futility of building winners this way and committing money to a system that is totaly absurd. Possibly there will come a time when sanity rules again and the Yankmees are the only team left building their line up through free agency.Either that or we have some go bankrupt. Edited January 2, 2009 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) The NFL has a different system, but look at the rise of the Dolphins and Falcons this year, to name a couple. Of course, there's the example of the Rays, who defeated the might Yankee Empire and all its dollars. Actually, signing Free Agents will never disappear, if it's seen as the final move to put a team over the top or into contention. It's building your team with free agents and not having a strong farm system that will eventually lead to disaster. At least the Diamondbacks learned this lesson the hard way after almost going bankrupt. Actually, I think the MLB is almost as safe as the NFL in terms of bankrupty likelihood. It's the NBA, NHL and NASCAR that are going to be in trouble first. You look at the worst franchises, like the Nationals, they're in no danger with a new stadium and super-rich owner. The Royals have been turning a profit consistently over the last few years due to revenue sharing. Even the Marlins aren't hopeless...of all the teams right now, maybe the Pirates are the most vulnerable, but McClatchy also has plenty of money. However, there's concern that the impact of his businesses weakening or failing might cause him to sell off the team, and it would be a shame if they left Pittsburgh with the history there and the nice new stadium the public largely financed. Maybe the Padres, with the Moores divorce as well. But they also have a new stadium and were a winning franchise until they imploded. Perhaps Cincinnati....Ohio and Michigan will suffer greatly from this recession, but Cleveland's still able to bring Wood and DeRosa on board. I remember going to games in the old stadium on the lakefront, talk about a bleak and totally depressing environment for baseball. Cleveland and Detroit are much better off as cities than they used to be. Edited January 2, 2009 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Aaron sure capitalized on his big year in Philly, didn't he? Good for him. If he continues to produce like he did in 2008, it will obviously be a poor deal for the Giants... but nowhere near as stupid as some of the other signings they've had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jan 2, 2009 -> 08:28 AM) 2009 Giants = 2008 Miami Dolphins? They went from worst to first with unnoticable free agent signings. The Dolphins also had the greatest football mind of the past 25 years as team president too. That doesn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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