Felix Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 They get 10 votes, and one of the guys that didn't vote for Rickey only voted for 8 people. That's completely inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 That adds some clarity to the situation. I can understand that reasoning. I do not necessarily agree, and I doubt that was the intent of limiting their votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Don't you think a unanimous ballot would really feed a Henderson ego that doesn't need feeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 01:09 PM) Don't you think a unanimous ballot would really feed a Henderson ego that doesn't need feeding? Ricky already believes Ricky is the greatest. What Ricky do is the greatest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 01:12 PM) Ricky already believes Ricky is the greatest. What Ricky do is the greatest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 01:12 PM) Ricky already believes Ricky is the greatest. What Ricky do is the greatest. It could be the greatsest HOF speech of all time if someone else doesn't write it for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 01:09 PM) Don't you think a unanimous ballot would really feed a Henderson ego that doesn't need feeding? He's comedy gold anything that could possibly fuel that I'm all for. I think Maddux has a shot at getting 100%, once someone cracks it you will see a few more. A-Rod should be, but he won't get it. As long as Jeter doesn't get 100% i'll be fine, he's already ruined the gold glove for me (it's a flawed award, he was just the one that cemented it for me) I hope he doesn't give the HOF a bitter taste for me. Don't get me wrong, at the end of his career he'll deserve HOF, but not 100% or the dick sucking he is going to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) It could be the greatsest HOF speech of all time if someone else doesn't write it for him. I have never really looked forward to those speaches, but his is one I can't miss. I wish they would allow Ricky to introduce Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 On Espnnews just now one of the guys talking about the hall of fame voting said in a couple years that Frank Thomas could be an interesting debate. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:19 PM) On Espnnews just now one of the guys talking about the hall of fame voting said in a couple years that Frank Thomas could be an interesting debate. What a joke. The only debate is first ballot or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) The only debate is first ballot or not. I honestly don't see that up for debate. He is in every way a first ballot Hall of Famer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) I honestly don't see that up for debate. He is in every way a first ballot Hall of Famer. Not in every way. How would you rate his defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:28 PM) Not in every way. How would you rate his defense? Defense plays almost zero part in judging a first basemans credentials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) Defense plays almost zero part in judging a first basemans credentials. Had Frank been a first baseman, that would be true. But Frank was a DH, and that is where the debate will come in. I think Frank is a HoF player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) Defense plays almost zero part in judging a first basemans credentials. It should, it is 50% of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) It should, it is 50% of the game. I think the percentage is more position dependent. You can hide a bad glove in the corners, not up the middle. You can put a less than cannon arm in left, it is more a liability in right. A player can have a career as a great hitting, poor fielding first baseman better than a great hitting, poor fielding shortstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 It should, it is 50% of the game. So why did Mark Grace get so few votes? He was a great hitter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 05:40 PM) So why did Mark Grace get so few votes? He was a great hitter too. . . . Don Mattingly . . . Keith Hernandez . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Will Thomas be the first DH in the Hall? Edgar Martinez and Rafael Palmiero can't be getting in, can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 05:19 PM) Will Thomas be the first DH in the Hall? Edgar Martinez and Rafael Palmiero can't be getting in, can they? Palmiero no way, Edgar is a pretty big longshot, although he did have a pretty fantastic career. You could say Molitor was the first DH in the hall though. Last 8 years of his career, he was primarily a DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 05:19 PM) Will Thomas be the first DH in the Hall? Better be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Thomas was THE premier hitter for a period of time in baseball, and absolutely was a game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I do think it would be funny if Henderson came back and played in the big leagues after getting inducted. If anyone would do it, it'd be him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 09:14 PM) I do think it would be funny if Henderson came back and played in the big leagues after getting inducted. If anyone would do it, it'd be him. There's our leadoff hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) I honestly don't see that up for debate. He is in every way a first ballot Hall of Famer. I would say so, but I have no idea how writers outside of Chicago view his career today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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