winninguglyin83 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Nice cold-weather read on Jeff Marquez, the pitcher the Sox got from the Yankees for Swisher. He sounds pretty pumped to be changing pinstripes and knows he needs to improve his command. http://www.thereporter.com/ci_11441373?source=most_viewed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 probably cause no one else wants him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 You're just a big meany, Shuf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Kenny wanted him bad so I hope he isn't a dissapointment. I know youngsters, especially pitchers can be a gamble, so here's hoping we have a good one on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dude looks 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 as long as the clock keeps tickin and we don't sign anybody else, he's got a shot to be number 5 starter -- scary as that sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 08:46 PM) as long as the clock keeps tickin and we don't sign anybody else, he's got a shot to be number 5 starter -- scary as that sounds. I love how the article on whitesox.com talks about believing in Marquez and Richard because of how Danks and Floyd turned out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Jan 14, 2009 -> 03:03 AM) I love how the article on whitesox.com talks about believing in Marquez and Richard because of how Danks and Floyd turned out... Unless things change, that might be our marketing campaign this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Of course he's thrilled, we're the only team in baseball that believes he can make it as a major league starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Well, You Guys Didn't Believe in Carlos, Alexei, Danksy and Gavin...Look What They Did!!!! Great...lovely. To hear KW talk, with Marquez' arsenal replete with multiple "plus" pitches, you wonder how he ever possibly put up that 4.69 ERA last year...yet nobody addressed what happened with his career trajectory last year and why he regressed so far as a prospect with the Yankees in one season (from a Top Ten...8-10 guy...to 21, or something like that, before the trade). Well, the other marketing idea... These Guys Looked REALLY REALLY Good in the Arizona Fall League (KW was so impressed, he traded for them...cue 80's music, like the commercials about electric shavers from the past, he even bought the company)!!! They could put Floyd, Marquez, Cole Armstrong, Flowers, Beckham and Jon/Jordan Danks on the cover, lol. Edited January 14, 2009 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) White Sox 2009: 50 Cents Edited January 14, 2009 by R.J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Or we can have a nice promotional tie-in with the rapper 50 Cent, aka Curtis Jackson. Or maybe we can convince him to change his name to "75 Cents on the Dollar" for this season...plus, as an added bonus, he's usually sporting a White Sox hat anyway. Edited January 14, 2009 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I hate this trade everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jan 14, 2009 -> 05:12 AM) I hate this trade everyday. Yep, especially if Yankees get more for Swisher than we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 11:13 PM) Yep, especially if Yankees get more for Swisher than we did. People are going to have a s***fit if they do. It all goes back to acquiring a LFer when we needed a CFer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The latest rumor was Mike Cameron for Swisher. Does that sound better than what we got in return? He's a CFer, but would anyone really be happy with Mike Cameron as a return? I'm sure a few would, plus there's the sentimental idea of bringing him back 10 years later, but...he's not an option for leadoff hitter either, which is one of the biggest "issues" hanging over the team at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 11:13 PM) Yep, especially if Yankees get more for Swisher than we did. In the current market, good luck to them is all I'm going to say. They'll trade Nady instead anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 10:23 PM) The latest rumor was Mike Cameron for Swisher. Does that sound better than what we got in return? He's a CFer, but would anyone really be happy with Mike Cameron as a return? I'm sure a few would, plus there's the sentimental idea of bringing him back 10 years later, but...he's not an option for leadoff hitter either, which is one of the biggest "issues" hanging over the team at this point. Brian Anderson is basically a little worse hitting (at least at this stage of Cameron's career), younger, and white version of Mike Cameron. Edited January 15, 2009 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jan 13, 2009 -> 10:12 PM) I hate this trade everyday. I hate the Sweeney, Gio, and DLS trade more then either. Swisher is a pretty terrible player, and I'm not sad to see him go at all, but I think Sweeney, Gio, and DLS > Betemit, Marquez, and Nunez (was Nunez, right?). While Gio has had his location troubles, he's still got above average stuff and has a higher ceiling then Marquez. Betemit is a solid utility infielder but Sweeney is at least a decent starter. And I don't know much about Nunez, but while DLS did have TJS and is still a while away from the majors, he's got the stuff to be a real good pitcher, whether it be in the bullpen or rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Brian Anderson is basically a little worse hitting (at least at this stage of Cameron's career), younger, and white version of Mike Cameron. OPS+ Cameron since 2001: 123 109 108 104 114 121 103 110 Anderson: 41 65 2 81 How is Anderson a "little" worse. Cameron is also better on the basepaths and is still a solid defensive CF. The biggest knock on him would be his $10 million salary which now starting to look like a lot based on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 In the article that had the link to it, I read where Marquez has a power chageup to both left and right handed hitters. Does anybody know exactly for sure what a power changeup is. I did some searching, and came up blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jan 14, 2009 -> 07:03 PM) OPS+ Cameron since 2001: 123 109 108 104 114 121 103 110 Anderson: 41 65 2 81 How is Anderson a "little" worse. Cameron is also better on the basepaths and is still a solid defensive CF. The biggest knock on him would be his $10 million salary which now starting to look like a lot based on the market. maybe more then a little, but they still are very similar players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Dude looks 13 Better than looking older than his given age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Jan 14, 2009 -> 09:19 PM) In the article that had the link to it, I read where Marquez has a power chageup to both left and right handed hitters. Does anybody know exactly for sure what a power changeup is. I did some searching, and came up blank. Perhaps it's a shuuto, and they're just not calling it that as it's a Japanese term? I'm not sure. That part of his scouting report confused me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Jan 14, 2009 -> 08:19 PM) In the article that had the link to it, I read where Marquez has a power chageup to both left and right handed hitters. Does anybody know exactly for sure what a power changeup is. I did some searching, and came up blank. The best description that I could find is that a power change doesn't "float" up to the plate ala Tom Glavine. So basically it has a good amount of downward movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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