Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Big Bad Bobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO2005 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Nice! Can you please throw 100 mph again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 03:08 PM) Nice! Can you please throw 100 mph again isnt that a lot? bcuz its his 1st arb year and wasnt it also for guys like hamels? he got less than that i think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 that can by a LOT of Big Macs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 03:08 PM) Nice! Can you please throw 100 mph again Im happy with him getting saves and outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 03:12 PM) that can by a LOT of Big Macs... Doesnt he get McDonalds for free for doing those commercials a couple years ago? Bobby has earned this pay more than anybody... 2 Division championships, 1 League championship and 1 World Series Championship to go along with his 117 Saves in 133 save oppurtunities an impressive 88% career save percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 It's exactly what I figured he'd get. If you go year to year with a player in arbitration you're going to end up paying more than if you just buy them all out with a multi-year deal. The Sox trade a few million dollars for the security of one year contracts rather than Jenks giving up a few million for the security of $20M+ guaranteed. $5.5M is right where he deserved to be paid. If Jenks comes through with an excellent 2009 season he's looking at the possibility of 8 figures in his second year of arbitration. There's really no modern day precedent for what Jenks is doing. A 28 year old going into his 5th year in the league (but only 4 years of service time) and second year of arbitration who's been one of the best closers in the game since the get go? That doesn't happen. If he stays healthy and produces he'll be a very rich man even before he hits free agency. QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 07:15 PM) I have him at $5.2M, Jenks is about to get real expensive, real quick. Closers in their first year of arbitration: 2008: Huston Street - $3.3M (coming off an injury, rather average closer for the first 3 years of his career) 2007: Chad Cordero - $4.15M (2 years previous as a full time closer, dominant in 2005, very good in 2006) 2006: Brad Lidge - $3.975M (1.5 years previous as a closer, one of the most dominant setup men in the game previously) 2006: Francisco Rodriguez - $3.75M (coming off first year as a full time closer, one of the most dominant setup men in the game previously) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1812891 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Highest # ever for first time eligible closers... although Papelbon will assuredly pass that soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 03:08 PM) Nice! Can you please throw 100 mph again Just for the excitement of it? Cause he gets just as many saves and outs without doing that ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 04:26 PM) Highest # ever for first time eligible closers... although Papelbon will assuredly pass that soon. Yep, like in the next few days. Jenks' agent and Rick Haun just set the precedent for Papelbon's deal since they're both arbitration eligible for the first time this season and Papelbon has been the more dominant pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Bobby is getting expensive, but he is well worth it. We haven't had a consistent closer year to year since Foulke which was a long time ago. It's good knowing going into the 9th with a lead we are pretty much sure a W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Stark says it's worth $5.6M. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ok now keep kicking ass bobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Good for Bobby. He's done a great job making the transition from thrower to pitcher. Keep getting it done kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Just for the excitement of it? Cause he gets just as many saves and outs without doing that ya know. I, uh... respectfully disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 09:04 PM) I, uh... respectfully disagree. By...ignoring statistics? Whatever floats your boat I guess, but I'd rather have a 95mph Bobby with lower stats in every category but SO and S's than the 100mph version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 09:04 PM) I, uh... respectfully disagree. Does he, uh....not get outs and saves anymore? Because I, uh....missed that. last year-30 saves, 07-40 saves, 06-41 saves Edited January 20, 2009 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This is probably a known fact, but how many years or arbitration does a player have before he is a FA? 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 3. Unless you're a Super Two player then it's 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Usually 3 full seasons (six total) but there are some "Super2" players...there's a formula for determining that which I don't care to look up amidst all the euphoria of Inauguration Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I rather see 100mph Bobby as well for reasons already discussed. Search for it in the trade Bobby discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Papelbon got $6.25M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 04:05 PM) Papelbon got $6.25M That's about right. And the Red Sox are wise, just as the Sox are, taking it year by year with an injury prone closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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