YonderLaroche Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Post yours. Discuss mine. CF- Jerry Owens SS- Alexai Ramirez DH- Jim Thome LF- Carlos Quentin RF- Jermaine Dye C- AJ Pierzynski 1B- Paul Konerko 3B- Josh Fields 2B- Chris Getz Bench: IF- Wilson Betemit IF: Brent Lillenbridge? OF: Brian Andeson OF: Dewayne Wise C: ??? SP: Mark Buehrle SP: John Danks SP: Gavin Floyd SP: Clayton Richard SP: Bartolo Colon CP: Bobby Jenks RP: Matt Thorton RP: Ocatavio Dotel RP: Scott Linebrink RP: DJ Carrasco LRP: Lance Broadway If Jerry Owens and Josh Fields can play as good as 07 or better this will be a good team. Starting pitching, 3B/SS/RF/CF/C defense is a ?, AJP still can't throw out runners at 2b, Thome, Dye, Konerko are a year older, bullpen is solid, lineup has lots of power and a little speed. Hopefully this team avoids injuries and the starting pitching and defense is solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Getz 2b Ramirez ss Quentin lf Dye rf Thome dh Konerko 1b Pierzynski c Fields 3b Anderson cf Betemit Lillibridge Wise/Owens Viciedo Stewart Buehrle Floyd Danks Colon Marquez/Contreras Jenks Linebrink Thornton Dotel Carrasco Poreda/Richard Of course it's too early yet, but as it stands now this is roughly what they could/should put together. I don't like Ramirez batting second but what are ya gonna do. Edited February 2, 2009 by South Side Fireworks Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 i don't know why you'd put alexei second when he's one of our better guys with runners in scoring position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wise-CF Ramirez-SS Quentin-LF Thome-DH Dye-RF Konerko-1B Pierzynski-C Fields-3B Getz-2B S1- Buehrle S2- Floyd S3- Danks S4- Colon S5- Richard OF- Owens OF- Anderson IF- Betimet IF- Nix C- Lucy LHP- Thornton RHP- Jenks RHP- Dotel RHP- Linebrink RHP- Russel RHP- Wasserman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 07:05 PM) i don't know why you'd put alexei second when he's one of our better guys with runners in scoring position. (1) Because he'd see more fast-balls. (2) And people would be unlikely to pitch around him with Q batting 3rd. I like the idea. I think he could have a great year in the #2 position. Regarding him being good with guys in scoring position... It won't be a problem if the guys in front of him (Fields batting 8th, Getz 9th, and whoever at leadoff) do a respectable job of getting on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomSox Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 CF- Lillibridge 2B- Getz RF- Quentin LF- Dye DH- Thome 1B- Konerko SS- Ramirez C- AJ 3B- Fields BN - Lucy BN - Wise BN - Nix BN - Owens BN - Betemit SP- Danks SP- Floyd SP- Buehrle SP- Richard SP- Broadway RP- Jenks RP- Linebrink RP- Dotel RP- Thornton RP- Poreda RP- Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 CF- Yasser Gomez SS- Ramirez RF- Quentin LF- Dye DH- Thome 1B- Konerko C- AJ 3B- Fields 2B- Getz BN - Pudge BN - Wise BN - Lillibridge BN - Anderson BN - Betemit SP- Danks SP- Floyd SP- Buehrle SP- Richard SP- Marquez RP- Jenks RP- Linebrink RP- Dotel RP- Thornton RP- Yadel Marti RP- Russell KW put faith in two young starters last year. They both succeeded. I have no problem with him doing it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 If you believe KW, everyone has been wrong so far. AJP will bat 2nd again. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5416853.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 08:45 PM) If you believe KW, everyone has been wrong so far. AJP will bat 2nd again. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5416853.story I can't see it if Owens leads off. It would result in 3 consecutive lefties: Getz at #9; Owens at #1; AJ at #2. I don't think Ozzie would do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Assuming we don't bring in any new players: 1B- Konerko DH- Thome CF- Alexei LF- Quentin RF- Dye C- Fields 2B- Getz 3B- Pierzynski SS- Lillibridge OF- Anderson OF- Owens/Wise INF- Betemit C- Corky Miller??? SP- Buehrle SP- Floyd SP- Danks SP- Colon SP- Richard/Marquez/Poreda/Broadway CL- Jenks SU- Linebrink RP- Dotel RP- Thornton RP- Richard/Marquez RP- Russell/Poreda/whoever else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (scenario @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 02:20 AM) (1) Because he'd see more fast-balls. (2) And people would be unlikely to pitch around him with Q batting 3rd. I like the idea. I think he could have a great year in the #2 position. Regarding him being good with guys in scoring position... It won't be a problem if the guys in front of him (Fields batting 8th, Getz 9th, and whoever at leadoff) do a respectable job of getting on base. i dunno. i just don't see it. i think alexei's more valuable lower in the order where he's got a better chance to drive in a fair amount of runs. jmho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (VenomSox @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 08:21 PM) CF- Lillibridge 2B- Getz RF- Quentin LF- Dye DH- Thome 1B- Konerko SS- Ramirez C- AJ 3B- Fields I was going to post the exact same lineup. I like the potential of Lillibridge and Getz at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 09:14 PM) i dunno. i just don't see it. i think alexei's more valuable lower in the order where he's got a better chance to drive in a fair amount of runs. jmho. I understand. There are pro's and con's to both. If he does hit lower in the order, it's likely to be 7th... with Fields, Getz, and Owens hitting behind him. If he hits second, he'll have Quentin, Thome, and Dye hitting behind him. In the second scenario, I think he'll see better pitches. That's why I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Owens- CF Pierzynski- C Quentin- LF Dye-RF Thome-DH Konerko- 1B Ramirez- SS Fields- 3B Getz- 2B Bench- Lillibridge-2B/SS, Betemit-1B/3B, Stewart-C, Anderson-OF Rotation- Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Richard Bullpen- Poreda, Carrasco, Russell, Thornton, Linebrink, Dotel, Jenks Wise gets traded or released at the end of spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Lillibridge 2B Ramirez SS Q LF Thome DH Konerko 1B Dye RF A.J. C Fields 3B Anderson CF Bench Armstrong, Getz, Betemit, Wise Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Poreda Marquez, Richard, Russell, Linebrink, Dotel, Thorton, Jenks Edited February 2, 2009 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 02:45 AM) If you believe KW, everyone has been wrong so far. AJP will bat 2nd again. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5416853.story How can we be wrong when constructing our lineups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) soooo much can change during spring training. but as of right now here is what i project: Lillybridge CF (has an amazing ST) Pierzynski C (like Fathom said, KW loves AJ hitting second) Quentin LF Dye RF Thome DH Ramirez SS Konerko 1B Fields 3B Getz 2B Bench: Betemit 3B, 1B, Wise OF, Anderson OF, ?? C, Nix INF Rotation: Buerhle Danks Floyd Poreda (has an amazing ST...) Colon Bullpen: Jenks, Thorton, Dotel, Linebrink, Richard, Wasserman Spring training battles to watch: 2B: I think it will be really close between Getz and Lillybridge. 3B: Many people are pretty much assuming Fields wins the 3B position with all of his offseason work with Cora, but it shall be interesting to see how this Viciedo guy does in Spring training to challange him. 5th starter spot: Poreda vs Richard vs Marquez vs Broadway- KW seems really high on Marquez but i see him more as in insurance policy to Colon. Broadway hasn't really devloped into what we thought he could become. I think its really down to Richard and Poreda and the loser goes to the bullpen... it will be fun to watch. CF: This is by far the biggest question mark on our team. Does Ozzie let Anderson have 1 more crack at it? We all know his defensive capabilities, but can he finally hit on a consistent basis? Does Owens finally stay healthy enough to be that speedy guy we have missed since Pods? Does Wise have the spring training of his life to become our leadoff hitter? Can Lillybridge adjust to centerfield in time for the regular season? Edited February 2, 2009 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So is Nix really this far out of the running for the second base spot? Is it because he's the only one that couldn't lead off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 07:05 PM) i don't know why you'd put alexei second when he's one of our better guys with runners in scoring position. That's why I said I hate putting him there. But as the lineup currently stands, there is no one to put second unlessyou want to put AJ there again following the left handed Getz at leadoff. Ideally, I'd bat Ramirez sixth, maybe seventh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Owens - CF Ramirez - SS Quentin - LF Thome - DH Dye - RF Konerko - 1B Pierzynski - C Fields - 3B Getz - 2B Bench - Lillibridge - 2B/SS, Betemit - 1B/3B, Stewart - C, Anderson - OF Rotation - Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Richard Bullpen - Poreda, Carrasco, Russell, Thornton, Linebrink, Dotel, Jenks ------------------------------------------------------------------ But I think it's very possible the Sox will only carry 11 pitchers in April (making Poreda the odd man out because he's probably the only one with options left), and that Wise will make the team instead. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Things will get pretty interesting if Viciedo and/or a couple of pitchers competing for spots (like Broadway, Egbert, Wasserman, Link, or Jimenez) have a good spring training. ------------------------------------------------------------------- And the whole lineup gets much more confusing/interesting if Owens pulls a groin muscle again... and Anderson or Lillibridge have a strong spring training. I do NOT believe that CF is being handed to Owens. I think one of those three guys will win the job based on how well they play in S/T. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Anderson flat out wins the job this year... throwing Ozzie's plans for leadoff back into chaos. If so, Brian would bat 9th, and whoever ends up winning the 2B job (Getz or Lillibridge) would likely be our leadoff hitter. Edited February 2, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Indications are that prized left-hander Aaron Poreda has an excellent shot at making the Opening Day roster, even if he doesn't beat out Clayton Richard or Jeff Marquez for the fifth starter's spot. Guillen said his son Oney raved about Poreda when they played together in the minor leagues. Poreda also struck out five in three innings, including a called third strike on Colorado's Todd Helton, in a 'B' game last March. "Pretty soon he'll be in the big leagues, and you will enjoy the way this kid pitches," Guillen said. "He's got great stuff. Whoever scouted this guy should be proud." www.chicagotribune.com/sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 08:45 PM) If you believe KW, everyone has been wrong so far. AJP will bat 2nd again. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5416853.story And if AJ does bat 2nd again, KW and Ozzie are even stupider then I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 11:31 AM) And if AJ does bat 2nd again, KW and Ozzie are even stupider then I thought. AJ is not a prototypical #2 hitter, but he did reasonably well in that position last year. Its not as bone-headed as some are making it out to be, when you have a team full of big boppers like the Sox have. They don't really have great options for #1 and #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 There are two versions of answers to this question. Also, this is all assuming we don't do any more deals or signings, which is not at all written in stone... Here is WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN: CF Owens C AJP LF TCQ DH Thome RF Dye 1B PK SS Ramirez 3B Fields 2B Getz/Lillibridge (platoon until someone emerges) Bench: Getz/Lillibridge, Betemit, Anderson, Stewart/Armstrong/Lucy Rotation: Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Marquez Bullpen: Jenks, Dotel, Linebrink, Thornton, Russell, Richard, Carrasco ---- Here is WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE: 2B Getz SS Ramirez LF TCQ DH Thome RF Dye 1B PK C AJP 3B Fields CF Anderson/Owens (platoon, but if Lillibridge could play CF, I'd want him there over either one) Bench: Lillibridge (if Getz struggles, flip them), Betemit, Anderson/Owens, Lucy/Stewart (Lucy if healthy, if not, then Stewart) Rotation: Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Marquez Bullpen: Jenks, Dotel, Linebrink, Thornton, Russell, Richard, Wassermann NOTES: Broadway should be traded to the highest bidder if possible, if not, have him start in AAA again. Poreda should start at AAA to get those breaking pitches refined a bit more, but keep his arm stretched out for starting. Either one could come up quick if Marquez can't get it done, and neither one will benefit from bullpen time, IMO. Wise should be in AAA or gone. Cook should be re-signed for AAA if you can, and he should be the first OF replacement if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 11:43 AM) AJ is not a prototypical #2 hitter, but he did reasonably well in that position last year. Its not as bone-headed as some are making it out to be, when you have a team full of big boppers like the Sox have. They don't really have great options for #1 and #2. Our roster is going to be filled with stupid actually. 1.) Having one of Wise, Owens, or Anderson being a full time starter 2.) Having one of Wise or Owens potentiall being our leadoff hitter 3.) Having Pierzynski bat 2nd (this will be stupid no matter what. It was fine for a little bit last year when AJP was hot, but eventually AJP had to be moved back down) 4.) Having once again the slowest lineup in baseball (one of Thome, Dye, or Konerko had to be moved) 5.) Having 2 of Colon, Richard, Broadway, Poreda, or Marquez in the rotation 6.) Having what looks to be Corky Miller as our backup catcher (this one is still pending) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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