scenario Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) Josh Kroeger, a lefthanded-hitting outfielder signed as a minor league free agent, was sixth in the Venezuelan League in homers (10) and seventh in RBIs (43). He hit .307/.373/.514 with 15 homers for Triple-A Iowa in 2008. He will be in big league camp, trying to open eyes. Edited February 6, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Great to hear Kroeger's doing so well. The kid has always had a world of potential and can handle Center. Sadly, i don't see us giving him much of a shot, but hopefully he'll hit well enough to generate interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 This kid put up some serious numbers down in the minors... if he can play, I hope that Ozzie gives him a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Never hurts to have another able body in camp. He looks like there's some skills there but he hasn't had much of a chance to stick in the bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 11:49 PM) This kid put up some serious numbers down in the minors... if he can play, I hope that Ozzie gives him a shot. The Sox have shown that they are not afraid to turn to career minor leaguers if they see something in them. Just ask DeWayne Wise and Pablo Ozuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hm. Bad K/BB ratio, and he's had some struggles. But, he seems to get to a certain level, struggle, then find it. If he can play CF, and has some good offensive potential, he's definitely worth having in the system somewhere. Even if its as a backup plan in Charlotte. Better than Jeff DaVanon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) Here's an abbreviated scouting report from 2005, when he was the #7 prospect in the DBacks system. Coincidentally that year, Carlos Quentin was their #1 prospect. Background: Kroeger's athleticism was obvious when the Diamondbacks drafted him -— he turned down a football scholarship as a wide receiver -- but he was raw as a baseball player. He started to figure the game out in 2003 and took another step forward last year, when he topped the system with 266 total bases and tied for the minor league lead with 51 doubles. (He had 19 homeruns to go along with those 51 doubles... in 453 at-bats... between AA and AAA in 2004.) Strengths: Kroeger is a natural hitter with a smooth, level swing and good power. He’s especially adept at driving the ball in the gaps. He has the arm for right field and the slightly above-average speed to play center in a pinch. Weaknesses: His overly aggressive approach was exploited in his big league debut, as he struck out 21 times and drew just one walk in 55 plate appearances. He already has lost a step from his high school days and may continue to slow down. His effort has come into question at times. The Future: Kroeger proved in September that he’s not ready to hit big league pitching. Set to return to Triple-A, he could get buried by Arizona's outfield depth. Kenny loves those former football players, doesn't he? At least he picked up a wide receiver to play with all the former quarterbacks. The 2005-2006 seasons at AAA for Arizona and then Philly exposed his aggressiveness and lack of plate discipline. But 2007-2008 in the Cubs system, there seemed to be improvement in his walks/strikeouts and his average/OBP bounced back up. Edited February 6, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 What was his line in the minors last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (DBAHO @ Feb 6, 2009 -> 11:18 AM) What was his line in the minors last season? .307 .373 .514 .887 15 homeruns and 38 doubles in 430 at-bats for the AAA - Iowa Cubs. 43 walks / 82 strikeouts Edited February 6, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Spring Training is for eternal hope and competition. I am looking forward to seeing what develops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I really hope David Cook rises to the occasion and wins the CF job. Its definitely not likely, but I just get the same vibe off him as I did Chris Getz(when he was in lowA) and think Cook will be successful in the bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Feb 6, 2009 -> 05:48 PM) I really hope David Cook rises to the occasion and wins the CF job. Its definitely not likely, but I just get the same vibe off him as I did Chris Getz(when he was in lowA) and think Cook will be successful in the bigs. I thought Cook was more of a corner guy? Doesn't he play LF/RF/1B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 6, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) I thought Cook was more of a corner guy? Doesn't he play LF/RF/1B? Cook plays the corners but can also play CF. Games by position throughout this minor league career. Yr Age Team LF CF RF 2005 23 Kanny 86 10 0 2006 24 WinSal 128 0 0 2007 25 WinSal 34 18 34 2007 25 Birm. 0 1 27 2008 26 Birm. 0 22 39 2008 26 Charl. 8 0 56 Edited February 7, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 6, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) I thought Cook was more of a corner guy? Doesn't he play LF/RF/1B? He talks about it in his interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I like it. Worst case scenario is that he provides us with a quality backup option for the outfield down at Charlotte. Best case, he shows that talent in spring training, and wins the CF job (platoon with Anderson?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 He's doing pretty good in camp so far, good prediction scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (scenario @ Feb 6, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) Kenny loves those former football players, doesn't he? At least he picked up a wide receiver to play with all the former quarterbacks. Jerry Owens was a wide receiver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 08:53 PM) Jerry Owens was a wide receiver...Kroeger didn't show too much in yesterdays game showing that he was neither the greatest hitter or fielder. Not playing perfectly at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (forrestg @ Mar 13, 2009 -> 08:50 AM) Kroeger didn't show too much in yesterdays game showing that he was neither the greatest hitter or fielder. Not playing perfectly at first. 1B and OF are not the same. I've seen him in the OF a couple times now (admitedly a very small sample size), and he looked fine. If you look at his career minor league time, he has had a whopping 19 chances at 1B - barely one game's worth. The rest of his time has been in the outfield. 1B is overall easier to play than any OF position, but, that doesn't mean you can just immediately start playing 1B and be good right away. All positions on the field take time to adjust to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Mar 12, 2009 -> 08:53 PM) Jerry Owens was a wide receiver... Good thing. It'll give him career options after the Sox cut him at the end of spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Boy Kroeger has really fallen off as the players in camp have narrowed. He is down to .302 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2009 -> 10:59 PM) Boy Kroeger has really fallen off as the players in camp have narrowed. He is down to .302 now. Come on now, it's been like 40 AB's. If he gets a hit in his next AB, his BA will shoot up to about .320. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 09:09 AM) Come on now, it's been like 40 AB's. If he gets a hit in his next AB, his BA will shoot up to about .320. Wasn't he hitting something like .500 over his first twenty ABs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 01:14 PM) Wasn't he hitting something like .500 over his first twenty ABs? I think he was somewhere in the .400 range, but never at .500. Corky on the other hand has been hovering around the .500 area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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