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Alex Rodriguez tested postive for steroids in 2003; Admits It


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QUOTE (Greenman @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 01:18 PM)
This is literally the best news ever

 

Suck it A Roid huggers

 

Now I am just pulling for Pujols to test positive and ill be set

I like the way you're put together.

 

I usually cheer for news stories that aggravate and upset a large number of people. This last week I've been especially satisfied with Phelps smoking out of bong and Arod testing positive for steroids. Just prepare yourself for the manufactured outrage from the media. We'll probably be overwhelmed with these types for the unforeseeable future.

 

Best part of all this? Canseco was right, yet again, and it's going to KILL some people on ESPN to admit it. I wish someone like David Ortiz was accused of taking steroids by Canseco just so people would squirm in their seats at the thought of their fugly DH shooting up roids.

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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 04:30 PM)
IF it turned out the entire 05 team was on PEDs, would it change your opinion of them?

 

Who cares if it helps your team win - this is why cheating is okay and should be acceptable. I wish our team cheated more if it meant more championships.

Really? What type of morals did you grow up with?

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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 02:30 PM)
IF it turned out the entire 05 team was on PEDs, would it change your opinion of them?

 

Who cares if it helps your team win - this is why cheating is okay and should be acceptable. I wish our team cheated more if it meant more championships.

 

The reality is that probably a fraction of players were juiced on the 05 team. Heck if you take the 03 numbers of 104 positive tests, which doesn't include HGH type stuff, that is one in seven players testing positive. That averages out to 3 to 4 players per each team. Granted it sounds like some teams have a concetration of problems, but I doubt very seriously that any team has zero cheaters. It is inevitable that some of our favorites will end up being frauds to. It is going to happen, sooner or later, that a name will slip out of the Sox clubhouse.

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It's just a shame, and I can't believe a guy like A-Rod, who unlike other players was an serious stud since freaking high school, would feel he can gain a better edge even with the biggest contract in MLB history. Ram and the others were never involved with A-Rod, but Canseco did mention him in his book. He was great at the age of 16. Just pitiful to hear.

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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 02:37 PM)
It's just a shame, and I can't believe a guy like A-Rod, who unlike other players was an serious stud since freaking high school, would feel he can gain a better edge even with the biggest contract in MLB history. Ram and the others were never involved with A-Rod, but Canseco did mention him in his book. He was great at the age of 16. Just pitiful to hear.

 

How do you think he gained all that power? Previously to joining Texas, his last 3 years he average 41.5 HR while hitting no higher than 42 HR. First year in Texas, he jumps up to 52, then 57 then 2003, the season he got busted, went back to 47, then 36 the following year with the Yanks.

 

From 1996-2000 = 184 HR

From 2001-2005 = 240 HR

 

That's a 56 HR difference. I don't think the bandbox in Texas made all that big of a difference.

 

Then 1999:

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2003:

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Now:

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The thing is, he was such a stud since he was young (still arguably the best high school player ever seen) that you wouldn't think he would need an edge to be as great as he already was. That's what I think he was stupid in that regard. Well... there's still Frank and Griffey who, so far, are clean and still the best players in our era.

 

But we should just try and move forward on this. Baseball is a game of edges, and eventually/most of the time, folks take them. Ritalin, scuffed balls, vaseline, red juice, cutting the bases, spitting on the ball, watering the basepaths, drying out the field with gasoline, pine tar, telescopes in CF, blinking lights, foot tappers in the 3rd base box, infield decks, corked bats, holding the runners belt, stealing signs from the dugout, tilted baselines... HGH, PEDs, steroids.

 

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 12:36 PM)
The reality is that probably a fraction of players were juiced on the 05 team. Heck if you take the 03 numbers of 104 positive tests, which doesn't include HGH type stuff, that is one in seven players testing positive. That averages out to 3 to 4 players per each team. Granted it sounds like some teams have a concetration of problems, but I doubt very seriously that any team has zero cheaters. It is inevitable that some of our favorites will end up being frauds to. It is going to happen, sooner or later, that a name will slip out of the Sox clubhouse.

Schoenweis doesn't count? He's already Mitchell Reported.

 

Anyway, I still have 1 or 2 guys from that clubhouse I have suspicions about, at least one of whom was named by Canseco, but it's worth noting that by the time they got to 2005, the testing was already fully installed, although it couldn't detect everything, so the team that I'd be more worried about scares me less than you'd think.

 

And I still come back to the fact that it seemed like if you were in the Sox clubhouse in the early 2000's and wanted to do that stuff, you might want to keep it out of the clubhouse, because there was a very big man with baseball bats who didn't seem to like that.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 02:36 PM)
The reality is that probably a fraction of players were juiced on the 05 team. Heck if you take the 03 numbers of 104 positive tests, which doesn't include HGH type stuff, that is one in seven players testing positive. That averages out to 3 to 4 players per each team. Granted it sounds like some teams have a concetration of problems, but I doubt very seriously that any team has zero cheaters. It is inevitable that some of our favorites will end up being frauds to. It is going to happen, sooner or later, that a name will slip out of the Sox clubhouse.

That's also with ample warning that they would be tested. I really think 50% would be a reasonable figure when determining users.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 09:12 PM)
Schoenweis doesn't count? He's already Mitchell Reported.

 

Anyway, I still have 1 or 2 guys from that clubhouse I have suspicions about, at least one of whom was named by Canseco, but it's worth noting that by the time they got to 2005, the testing was already fully installed, although it couldn't detect everything, so the team that I'd be more worried about scares me less than you'd think.

 

And I still come back to the fact that it seemed like if you were in the Sox clubhouse in the early 2000's and wanted to do that stuff, you might want to keep it out of the clubhouse, because there was a very big man with baseball bats who didn't seem to like that.

 

Yep, the 2005 White Sox were probably the cleanest team in the last 15 years (prior to that year) to win the WS.

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