rowand's rowdies Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 WILLY HARRIS! He was one of the highest valued players last season and most underpaid (worth $14.7 million, gets $1.5). He knows and likes the Sox, has speed, can hit, is a lefty, and scored our game winning run in 05. Washington has a glut of OF/1B (6 for 4 slots), and that doesn't even include Willy (mlbtraderumors.com has an article on this). So, he is definitely the odd man out. He should be able to be had for a medium prospect or two? So, let's trade one of our bum CF options (I say keep BA, but his trade value may be higher than Owens) for a medium prospect, use that and one of ours to get WIlly, and you have a speedy leadoff guy who hits lefty and plays CF. Go ahead, tear it apart, but you know you like it better than what we have now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 What metric values his performance lat year at $14.7 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I like Willie Harris as much as the next bias white sox fan but 14.7? really? The guy hit .251 with 13 HR's and 13 SB's last year. He only starts in the NL, in the AL he's just a decent bench player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 If I was targeting anyone from the Nats, it would probably be Milledge, and even then, he still has character issues. Harris is pretty much nothing more than a 4th OF IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Personally, I'd rather save the money and give BA a sink-or-swim chance in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand's rowdies Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 I've seen that a few times, if those were his stats (I didn't check), that sure doesn't match up. But, I still do like platooning him with BA more than Owens/BA/Wise. Wise is a nice 5th OF, and Owens is a AAA solid starter/pinch runner. Plus, WE NEED WILLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 If only to see the pile of garbage he leaves outside his hotel room at Soxfest again, I say YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Trade for Rowand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Would love to have him back at a utility player or platoon player. He's not a full-time starter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 08:51 PM) I've seen that a few times, if those were his stats (I didn't check), that sure doesn't match up. But, I still do like platooning him with BA more than Owens/BA/Wise. Wise is a nice 5th OF, and Owens is a AAA solid starter/pinch runner. Plus, WE NEED WILLY! The $14.6m value is correct, his value is that high because of his defense (+17.9 UZR) as opposed to his offense where he was worth around 4 runs above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 $14.6 million? ummmmm ... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 08:49 PM) Yes. I always liked Willie Harris, but he is more of a platoon player in the OF, but could back up 2B also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafreakstyle Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) Hi guys, first time poster. I think this would be a fantastic idea. He was one of the ten best defensive outfielders in all of baseball last season (as measured by several advanced fielding metrics) and his bat would be more valuable in center. I think the negative opinions of him are clouded by his somewhat disappointing performance when in Chicago, but since then he has become a much more patient hitter and has gotten outfield tutoring from Andruw Jones. He arguably should still be starting in the outfield for the Nats over Willingham, Dunn, and Milledge, his defense is that good. He would be a steal in my opinion. Check out this link and sort the data by fielding value: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...008&month=0 Edited February 14, 2009 by supafreakstyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 If the money is because of defense then why not pay BA 14.7 mil and be done with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 QUOTE (chwhtsox @ Feb 14, 2009 -> 06:31 PM) If the money is because of defense then why not pay BA 14.7 mil and be done with it? It's crazy to think I know, but saving a run on defense is actually worth the same as creating a run on offense. And I know the BA comment wasn't serious but I'm going to dismantle it anyway. Last season Brian had a UZR of 0.2 and even projected out over 150 games his UZR would have only been 1.0. Over Brian's career in CF he has a +4.3 UZR (200+ games) and going by the same system the valued Harris' 2008 at $14m+, Brian, over his whole career, has had a total value of $0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I'll take Willie as a supersub, but his season, at least in my eyes, was rather flukish. I'd rather go with Anderson and see if he can put it together as Willie offers nothing in terms of future value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 QUOTE (sircaffey @ Feb 14, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) I'll take Willie as a supersub, but his season, at least in my eyes, was rather flukish. I'd rather go with Anderson and see if he can put it together as Willie offers nothing in terms of future value. But we already gave Anderson a chance. ...In 2006. I think Brian's only worth to the team is as a platoon-type and late inning defensive replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Feb 14, 2009 -> 02:45 PM) But we already gave Anderson a chance. ...In 2006. I think Brian's only worth to the team is as a platoon-type and late inning defensive replacement. I think Anderson is the best option for CF that we currently have. Ozzie made BA pay his dues so speak, last year and Brian seemed to maturely accept it and do his job. I believe he's ready to assume the role of a starting everyday ML centerfielder and would like to see him get another shot at it on the southside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 QUOTE (YASNY @ Feb 14, 2009 -> 08:51 PM) I think Anderson is the best option for CF that we currently have. Ozzie made BA pay his dues so speak, last year and Brian seemed to maturely accept it and do his job. I believe he's ready to assume the role of a starting everyday ML centerfielder and would like to see him get another shot at it on the southside. Nuff said right there. Git r dun Ozzie and BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 never fails to get on base in the playoffs either... but scratch this idea, Getz is going to do a great job leading off, and even though i still think he is a wussbreath, Brian Anderson is going to knock out 25 dongs this year and be one of the main reasons were able to stay in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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