southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 06:24 PM) Link I wonder if this means we have Bobby's Rush's blessing to not be racists for wanting Burris out of office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 01:44 AM) Thank God! Now for a real senator from Illinois. Maybe. I am not sure that Quinn will find the right replacement. Or, if there is a special election, I am not sure the candidates for that office will be very good. Maybe, maybe not. Probably better than Burris though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 By the way, there is now a rising tide pushing for a 28th Amendment to the US Constitution, mandating special elections to fill vacant Senate seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 btw, I was drunk last night and couldn't tell the difference between Burris resigning and his spokesperson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) btw, I was drunk last night and couldn't tell the difference between Burris resigning and his spokesperson. THAAAAT explains that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 05:55 AM) By the way, there is now a rising tide pushing for a 28th Amendment to the US Constitution, mandating special elections to fill vacant Senate seats. Russ Feingold in da House! Or at least in da Senate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Breaking: Pat Quinn is asking Burris to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 11:20 AM) Breaking: Pat Quinn is asking Burris to resign. Link. This is getting into very messy territory now, in terms of who has what authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 11:36 AM) Link. This is getting into very messy territory now, in terms of who has what authority. Well, Quinn has no authority. But the more public pressure you put on a person, the hard life becomes for that person. In a situation like this, the harder you push back, it becomes less and less likely you will be vindicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 07:25 AM) I wonder if this means we have Bobby's Rush's blessing to not be racists for wanting Burris out of office? How dare you SSK, that is a seat of color now. Did I hear a Jackson may be in the running for that seat. I heard the name mentioned in the news yesterday, but do not know if she is A JACKSON or just shares the surname. Anyone? And what qualifications does she have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) Well, Quinn has no authority. But the more public pressure you put on a person, the hard life becomes for that person. In a situation like this, the harder you push back, it becomes less and less likely you will be vindicated. That may not be entirely true. Seems like he has authority to call special elections, under certain circumstances. Also, since the governor's office has nominating authority, it would seem that in absence of contravening, specific law, it would also have the authority to recall them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 11:39 AM) since the governor's office has nominating authority, it would seem that in absence of contravening, specific law, it would also have the authority to recall them. Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but once he is appointed... it's done. He's the senator. Since Illinois doesn't have a recall process, the only option is to wait it out. Now, i dont know if Burris can be impeached or found guilt of some crime, that might change things. but as the Gov, i think his relationship to a state senator is appointing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but once he is appointed... it's done. He's the senator. Since Illinois doesn't have a recall process, the only option is to wait it out. Now, i dont know if Burris can be impeached or found guilt of some crime, that might change things. but as the Gov, i think his relationship to a state senator is appointing one. Unless he resigns, the only option I know about once the documents providing for the appointment are signed, sealed, and delivered, is to have him removed from the Senate by the Senate Ethics committee and a 2/3 vote of the Full Senate (Which frankly, might not be that hard to get, depending on exactly what the ethics committee finds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 11:39 AM) That may not be entirely true. Seems like he has authority to call special elections, under certain circumstances. Also, since the governor's office has nominating authority, it would seem that in absence of contravening, specific law, it would also have the authority to recall them. I can think of instances where an official has power to nominate but not recall. Supreme Court for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 01:56 PM) I can think of instances where an official has power to nominate but not recall. Supreme Court for example. Yes, that was my point though - there are instances where they can't, but, if there is nothing about not being able to, that doesn't mean it is DEFINITE that they can't. I think this is all very fuzzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 02:03 PM) Yes, that was my point though - there are instances where they can't, but, if there is nothing about not being able to, that doesn't mean it is DEFINITE that they can't. I think this is all very fuzzy. Sorry, I was only half paying attention to the state that makes New Jersey seem honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 "Squeak squeak splash squeak splash splash splash". Acting Chief of Staff to Senator Roland Burris, Darrel Thompson, has resigned his position, according to senior staffers in the US Senate. Darrel Thompson, a former Senior Adviser to Senator Harry Reid, had been dispatched by Senator Reid to assist incoming Senator Burris in helping to fill senior staff positions in the office, develop a legislative strategy for the Senator's policy priorities, and build out constituent services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 03:31 PM) "Squeak squeak splash squeak splash splash splash". Wait, was I dreaming or did I not see a scroll Wednesday that Burris resigned??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 01:34 PM) Wait, was I dreaming or did I not see a scroll Wednesday that Burris resigned??? You were dreaming. Or drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 If you were like me you were drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 LOL Scandal-plagued Republican says Burris should resign Louisiana Sen. David Vitter ®, who survived a 2007 sex scandal, called on Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.) to resign Tuesday for his ethical shortcomings. Vitter was connected with a prostitution ring two years ago and dismissed any suggestion of hypocrisy given his own refusal to resign in the wake of that scandal. "I honestly don't know anybody who would compare these situations," he told The Hill on Tuesday. "They are dramatically different." Vitter said that Burris "clearly, at a minimum, misled the Illinois Legislature and the voters of the Illinois" by giving incomplete answers about his contacts with and fundraising efforts for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D-Ill.) as Blagojevich was considering appointing Burris to the state's Senate seat. "Obviously there are even more serious charges of perjury, but I guess that will sort itself out in terms of legal proceedings," Vitter said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 LOL It keeps getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Tom Geoghegan, who's running for Rahm Emmanuel's old Congressional seat, has filed a lawsuit in Illinois court to force the state to hold a special election. His legal reasoning is at least interesting. At a press conference at the Dirksen Federal Building this morning, Geoghegan -- along with co-counsels Scott Frankel, Rob Cohen, and former alderman Marty Oberman -- announced that he has filed a suit in federal court against the state of Illinois and Gov. Pat Quinn seeking a special election for the U.S. Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama. The plaintiffs claim that neither former Gov. Rod Blagojevich nor Quinn issued a “writ of elections to fill senate vacancies” as required by the 17th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Currently, Illinois follows a legal proviso in the amendment that allows the governor to “make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislatures may direct.” Geogeghan and his colleagues are not suggesting that Burris’ appointment was illegal—rather, it represents a temporary placeholder until the state could marshal the resources to hold a statewide election. (Geogeghan first laid out this argument in a New York Times op-ed published a few days after Burris’ appointment in January.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 07:43 PM) Tom Geoghegan, who's running for Rahm Emmanuel's old Congressional seat, has filed a lawsuit in Illinois court to force the state to hold a special election. His legal reasoning is at least interesting. IL AG Madigan put out an opinion yesterday stating this argument, and saying it has validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 11:33 AM) LOL It keeps getting better. He probably just "forgot" to mention that part. Don't worry. He'll amend his testimony and make it all legal... nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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