RockRaines Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The Cubs brass is trying to stir up ANYTHING to get some interest in Bradley. I wouldnt be surprised if they planted this rumor. As of this morning, there were no takers. Every team knows that they are eventually just going to release the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) Who the hell listens to Jen Patterson? What inside info does she have? I had seen her post this....Breaking News on "The Monsters In the Morning"... Milton Bradley will be traded to the Seattle Mariners. So I assumed it was coming from Jigs or the idiot. Haven't seen this anywhere else though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 10:08 AM) I had seen her post this....Breaking News on "The Monsters In the Morning"... Milton Bradley will be traded to the Seattle Mariners. So I assumed it was coming from Jigs or the idiot. Haven't seen this anywhere else though ohhhhh... well that;s different. Your first posted sounded as if SHE was breaking the news. Well, that's different. Not that I still believe it, but it's slightly more credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 FWIW the score is just reporting that there are 3 teams interested but nothing is near Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The Mariners interest stems from them wanting to trade Carlos Silva for Bradley. I don't care how s***ty Bradley is in the clubhouse, getting rid of the Silva deal would be phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 06:02 PM) The Mariners interest stems from them wanting to trade Carlos Silva for Bradley. I don't care how s***ty Bradley is in the clubhouse, getting rid of the Silva deal would be phenomenal. Yep, Silva actually has more money left on his deal than Bradley does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 11:04 AM) Yep, Silva actually has more money left on his deal than Bradley does. From Rotoworld: "According to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva. It'll be interesting to see what kind of money is being exchanged. Silva, who is owed $24 million over the next two years, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. Bradley, owed $21 million, batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line. For now, it appears the Mariners and GM Jack Zduriencik have pulled off another excellent deal." Cubs are morons. They basically get a guy that has no value and trade someone who is at least decent. They really should have held out. I can't imagine this was the best deal out there in the end. If it was that is sad. Cubs got used and abused, but really it's their own undoing for signing the moron to that horrible deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Silva replaces Harden then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 That's hilarious... Silva, who is owed $24 million over the next two years, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 12:46 PM) That's hilarious... Silva, who is owed $24 million over the next two years, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. They just need to pitch him against the White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 11:48 AM) They just need to pitch him against the White Sox. HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 11:48 AM) They just need to pitch him against the White Sox. Silva was torched in a pitchers park with great defense.....imagine what will happen to him in Wrigley. The NL is bad but notthat bad. Surround Milt with a good system and I think he will do fine. If cash is not exchanged with the M's covering some of that salary this coudl be one of the worst deals in baseball history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 01:04 PM) Silva was torched in a pitchers park with great defense.....imagine what will happen to him in Wrigley. The NL is bad but notthat bad. After the guys we saw turn it around in the NL last year (Contreras, Penny) I'm not so sure they're not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Man I'll never complain about the moves that KW makes. The Cubs are in a world of hurt. Carlos Silva? And you gotta pay him even MORE money? Wow... And mark my words... Milton Bradley will MASH next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 12:44 PM) From Rotoworld: "According to the Seattle Times' Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva. It'll be interesting to see what kind of money is being exchanged. Silva, who is owed $24 million over the next two years, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. Bradley, owed $21 million, batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line. For now, it appears the Mariners and GM Jack Zduriencik have pulled off another excellent deal." Cubs are morons. They basically get a guy that has no value and trade someone who is at least decent. They really should have held out. I can't imagine this was the best deal out there in the end. If it was that is sad. Cubs got used and abused, but really it's their own undoing for signing the moron to that horrible deal. I just dont think they had a choice. Bradley could absolutely not be on the field for them this year and every team knew it. They definitely lose in the trade, but they were going to lose no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Might as well release Bradley at that point if you are the Cubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) Might as well release Bradley at that point if you are the Cubs Yeah, if they don't get money back. They basically, lose $3 million and get a completely useless pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 They are supposedly getting about $9 mill from the Mariners. JZ has had an incredible offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 09:13 AM) The Mariners? Is he gonna platoon at DH with Griffey? The Mariners are having a hell of an offseason. I have no idea why they'd be interested in Bradley. NM. It all makes perfect sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 OMG thats a terrible trade. Shows how terrible his value is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 ROFL. One bad contract for another. Thing is, Silva's a hell of a lot worse than Bradley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) OMG thats a terrible trade. Shows how terrible his value is. Shows how stupid Hendry is. You don't trade a guy with a similar contract for one that's worse than him. You just don't. Oh wait: Cubs got $9 million in this deal. Still though, Carlos Silva? LOL Edited December 18, 2009 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Considering their situation and the lack of leverage they had, I think this was probably the best the Cubs could have done. Fact of the matter is, Bradley was not gonna play for the Cubs next year no matter what and every team knew that. Instead of eating the $21 million, they saved $6 mil of it and got an experienced guy who at least might be able to eat some innings, albeit very, very bad innings. However, the fact that they let this whole Milton Bradley situation turn in to this dump off is what makes the Cubs look ridiculous. Good move for the M's, they got rid of their awful, expensive pitcher, and only spent $3mil/year extra for a big hitter who has proven he can hit as a DH in a quieter market, which is what they were looking for in their lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 01:51 PM) Shows how stupid Hendry is. You don't trade a guy with a similar contract for one that's worse than him. You just don't. Oh wait: Cubs got $9 million in this deal. Still though, Carlos Silva? LOL Bradley is going to mash next year and Silva will put up a 5+ ERA in the NL. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 This is really the best the Cubs could hope for. They give up the 2-$20 commitment, and pick up essentially a 2-$15 commitment. So their net is to get back $5M, and a bad pitcher. Bradley was not playable for the Cubs, due to his own behavior, so to the Cubs, his presence was worth less than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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