Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 05:18 PM) The Cubs caught the Reds at the perfect time, with Votto, Volquez, and Encarnacion all out. And of course they missed Cueto and Harang. I still think the Reds can contend once they get heatlthy. I agree. Their pitching/defense is pretty damn good. Their offense should improve. Especially now that we've hit the summer months. And they've got plenty of legit trade chips in their farm system that they can go out and make a move if they choose. QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 11:39 PM) Yet the NL won the World Series last year. The Phillies won the World Series last year. Not the NL. And the NL, for the most part, is indeed awful. Q: Is this the year the Flubs embarrass us and win all six? Doubtful. They're just about as bad as we are. Edited June 8, 2009 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 05:29 AM) Doubtful. They're just about as bad as we are. Their starting pitching is significantly better than ours (being in the NL helps). Hopefully CQ is back for those games and that we skip Colon's start. We're going to see Zambrano, Dempster, and Wells in the series at Wrigley. We won't match up well with no Thome in the lineup against those righties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:40 AM) Their starting pitching is significantly better than ours (being in the NL helps). Hopefully CQ is back for those games and that we skip Colon's start. We're going to see Zambrano, Dempster, and Wells in the series at Wrigley. We won't match up well with no Thome in the lineup against those righties. Better? Maybe. Significantly? Not a chance. When Danks gets his head out of his ass (and his peripherals suggest he will), combined with Gavin seemingly overcoming his horrific start, I'll go with our top 3 over their top 3 without much thought. So then it comes down to Harden/Wells/Marshall vs Richard/Colon/Contreras. You could go either way here. Harden wasn't pitching that well before going on the DL for the 676th time. He'll be a major ? from here on out. I don't believe for a second Randy Wells is this good. And Marshall pretty much sucks. Clayton had been pitching pretty well before his last start (he's still obviously a ?). There's no inbetween with Colon. He's either going to give u a chance to win or the game will be over by the third inning. And Contreras pretty much sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The Cubs are first in all of baseball in quality starts after today. Funny comment from my horrible experience at an in-laws party tonight with all Cubs fans. They were talking about the Cubs, and a few of them go "the one player who we really need to get rid of is that Marmol guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:10 AM) The Cubs are first in all of baseball in quality starts after today. Funny comment from my horrible experience at an in-laws party tonight with all Cubs fans. They were talking about the Cubs, and a few of them go "the one player who we really need to get rid of is that Marmol guy". Cubs fans have never been known for their baseball acumen. Carlos Marmol is probably the filthiest (I obviously mean that in a good way) RP in all of baseball. As much as I hate to admit it, his BB/9 can't possibly remain at 8.33 for the entire year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) That comment is probably based on him blowing it in the playoffs 2 years ago. Not that this should have any relevance to today, but to a Cubs fan, it does. Edited June 8, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:40 AM) Their starting pitching is significantly better than ours (being in the NL helps). Hopefully CQ is back for those games and that we skip Colon's start. We're going to see Zambrano, Dempster, and Wells in the series at Wrigley. We won't match up well with no Thome in the lineup against those righties. better because the NL helps their numbers, pitcher by pitcher we have them beat. Our pen blows theirs away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 How many times can the Cubs face Moehler this year? Only 6 hits in the first inning for them tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 08:38 PM) better because the NL helps their numbers, pitcher by pitcher we have them beat. Our pen blows theirs away. I'd take Zambrano/Lilly/Dempster/Wells/Harden over Buehrle/Floyd/Danks/Richard/Contreras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 How many times can the Cubs face Moehler this year? Only 6 hits in the first inning for them tonight. Lilly with a triple. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 07:30 PM) I'd take Zambrano/Lilly/Dempster/Wells/Harden over Buehrle/Floyd/Danks/Richard/Contreras Me too, that's the one area they have us beat in. I'd take our pen over theirs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 10 of the first 16 batters to face Moehler have reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 It must be tough facing Houston and Pittsburgh a combined 32 times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 07:54 PM) 10 of the first 16 batters to face Moehler have reached. he's as bad a SP as I've seen in awhile, he flat out is throwing BP at points in a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Seriously, does Lance Berkman own stock in the Cubs or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Geoff Blum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Group 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 latroy hawkins...what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 That was one of the more predictable homers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Lee with a solo shot with one out in the top of the 9th. Tie game. Great work, Astros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 How bad has the Cubs offense been recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) That right there is why Marmol is one of the better relievers in the league. Edit: then he walks the next guy. That's what's always going to hold him back. Edited June 11, 2009 by Thunderbolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I find it amazing that the Astros can not hit cub pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 No one can hit Cubs pitching now. It's amazing how many low scoring games they're involved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Let's just hope that the Cubs pitching holds up for their Tigers series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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