lostfan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 It wasn't Perry's fault that the Cubs have a bunch of injured and s***ty hitters. Just screams "making a move for the sake of making a move." Maybe now with a new hitting coach (a year removed from having one of the best offenses in baseball) the Cubs' hitters will become healthy and non-s***ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 15, 2009 -> 10:36 AM) Didn't the Twins only have 7 road wins before this series? They were 9-20 on the road coming into the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 15, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) It wasn't Perry's fault that the Cubs have a bunch of injured and s***ty hitters. Just screams "making a move for the sake of making a move." Maybe now with a new hitting coach (a year removed from having one of the best offenses in baseball) the Cubs' hitters will become healthy and non-s***ty. The question is...are the numbers of Soriano and Lee due to them getting old or is it due to their technique? Are Soto's numbers due to, um, hell I'm not even going to say it, or is it due to technique? Aside from Soto, there's not a whole heck of a ton of prime-aged talent in that lineup right now. Aramis Ramirez yes, but he's hurt. Theriot and Fontenot are their young guys and while they can be solid pieces and occasionally get hot, it's silly to expect them to carry an offense. Their problem is that their big money, big pop guys aren't producing. But 2 of their big money, big pop guys are approaching their mid 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2009 -> 02:58 PM) The question is...are the numbers of Soriano and Lee due to them getting old or is it due to their technique? Are Soto's numbers due to, um, hell I'm not even going to say it, or is it due to technique? Aside from Soto, there's not a whole heck of a ton of prime-aged talent in that lineup right now. Aramis Ramirez yes, but he's hurt. Theriot and Fontenot are their young guys and while they can be solid pieces and occasionally get hot, it's silly to expect them to carry an offense. Their problem is that their big money, big pop guys aren't producing. But 2 of their big money, big pop guys are approaching their mid 30's. That's kind of re-wording what I just said. Their guys are not producing because they are injured and/or s***ty (i.e., old). Honestly I doubt if it's their technique all of a sudden. This whole lineup was doing great last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) The question is...are the numbers of Soriano and Lee due to them getting old or is it due to their technique? Are Soto's numbers due to, um, hell I'm not even going to say it, or is it due to technique? Aside from Soto, there's not a whole heck of a ton of prime-aged talent in that lineup right now. Aramis Ramirez yes, but he's hurt. Theriot and Fontenot are their young guys and while they can be solid pieces and occasionally get hot, it's silly to expect them to carry an offense. Their problem is that their big money, big pop guys aren't producing. But 2 of their big money, big pop guys are approaching their mid 30's. Aren't Theriot an Fontenot over 30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 if the cubs don't win the Central this year im not sure how anyone can justify Jim Hendry still having a job...hes been awful...he's signed a handful of albatross contracts (DLee Soriano) assembled a terrible bullpen with no real lefty, run the minor league system into the ground (its significantly worse than ours) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 09:10 AM) Aren't Theriot an Fontenot over 30? No, but close. Fontenot just turned 29 last week, and Theriot will be 30 in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) No, but close. Fontenot just turned 29 last week, and Theriot will be 30 in December. That's pretty old for "young guys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 07:44 AM) No, but close. Fontenot just turned 29 last week, and Theriot will be 30 in December. Seriously? H. Christ, I didn't even know that. The Cubs traded Derosa to clear a lineup spot for a 28 year old and money for Milton Bradley? I figured he was around 25-26 if they were trying to work him in as a regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 10:57 AM) Seriously? H. Christ, I didn't even know that. The Cubs traded Derosa to clear a lineup spot for a 28 year old and money for Milton Bradley? I figured he was around 25-26 if they were trying to work him in as a regular. Hendry kind of lost his magic touch in the last couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 10:57 AM) Seriously? H. Christ, I didn't even know that. The Cubs traded Derosa to clear a lineup spot for a 28 year old and money for Milton Bradley? I figured he was around 25-26 if they were trying to work him in as a regular. If i were guessing, i would have also said they were in their mid 20's. But i just had to look it up once their ages were called into question, and i was quite shocked. So Soto is their only everyday non-pitcher who is below 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) They also gave up on Casey McGehee last year who while not playing well for them has made the Weeks injury an afterthought and is only 26 years old. Edited June 16, 2009 by Jenks Heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Have to love Soriano assuming nobody would ever run on him. I know the scouting report says be careful running on him, but it doesn't mean he should just assume nobody will ever run on him ever. At least he's making it up at the plate /green! Have to love Len Kasper not giving Jenks any credit for the K of Milton Bradley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Cubs can't hit. Gavin should have a good time tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 04:38 PM) Have to love Soriano assuming nobody would ever run on him. I know the scouting report says be careful running on him, but it doesn't mean he should just assume nobody will ever run on him ever. At least he's making it up at the plate /green! Have to love Len Kasper not giving Jenks any credit for the K of Milton Bradley interesting to note that Soriano will STILL be patrolling LF and hitting leadoff for the cubs in 2014 making 18 million dollars a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 04:15 PM) interesting to note that Soriano will STILL be patrolling LF and hitting leadoff for the cubs in 2014 making 18 million dollars a year. You're assuming he isn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 06:15 PM) interesting to note that Soriano will STILL be patrolling LF and hitting leadoff for the cubs in 2014 making 18 million dollars a year. Yes, but 2011 will be fun too when they're paying him and Bradley still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I was apparently in a coma when DeRosa had a HOF career or won a world series with the Cubs, the hack fans are treating him like he's Griffey coming back to Seattle. Oh well, it's funny because it's a gigantic FU to Hendry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yesterday's game definitely resuscitated the Cubs. Down 3-0 to Mr. Cy Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 03:00 PM) Yesterday's game definitely resuscitated the Cubs. Down 3-0 to Mr. Cy Young. Love to see it. Can't wait to see the Trib's spin tomorrow if this game holds up. Something like "Let down understandable after big comeback VS. Sox." Hopefully Lee goes VERY deep into this game. Clev. bullpen is miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Harden looks like horse poo out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 6-0!! I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 So much for the momentum that yesterday was gonna start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 before big Victor crushed that ball, Harden had only thrown 1 strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 03:14 PM) Harden looks like horse poo out there only a 98 ERA+ coming into today, outside of about 2 starts he hasn't been very good at all this year... http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harderi01.shtml however, as a post or two above said this game isn't over, the Cle bullpen is like all Linebrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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