Melissa1334 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 10:48 AM) Off topic at the moment, but I'm sick of this and had to get it off my chest. I'm f***ing sick of the fact that Carlos Zambrano is considered an ace pitcher, when he's far from it. 2007-3.95 ERA, 1.33 WHIP 2008-3.90 ERA, 1.29 WHIP buehrle has accomplished a ton more in his career and while pitching in the a.l. but he doesnt throw hard and gives up a lot of hits. he doesnt strike guys out so zambrano is a stud pitcher with his almost 4 era in the n.l. and far superior bcuz he does strike guys out. Edited April 9, 2009 by Melissa1334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 04:57 PM) This is funny considering it's coming from a guy who thinks Aaron Harang should be in the Cy Young talks. That wasn't me, I think it was Whitesoxfan101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 That's right, I found it in the 2007 catch-all threads. There were some other gems in there too like how Rich Hill is "easily" worth Brian Roberts and a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Zambrano is 4+ ERA pitcher in the AL which could be a solid 3-5 guy. I think he floats between the extreme high end of the 3's to about 4.30 in the AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I still can't believe the Cubs got Harden for nothing. He looks fantastic so far today, as his fastball is topping out at 97 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 04:00 PM) I still can't believe the Cubs got Harden for nothing. He looks fantastic so far today, as his fastball is topping out at 97 mph. You could say that about him and Aramis. It's like other teams want to see the Cubs win it all. I'm befuddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWin Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 It makes me sick that the Cubs got Harden. Isn't he due for a stay on the DL soon or something? God, I hope he has multiple DL stints this year, if only so the Cubs don't re-sign him to a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWin Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 The Cubs are down 2-1 but you know it's just a matter of time before they take the lead (and probably win). When the Sox were down 2-0 yesterday we knew the game was over. WTF???!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (JustWin @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) The Cubs are down 2-1 but you know it's just a matter of time before they take the lead (and probably win). When the Sox were down 2-0 yesterday we knew the game was over. WTF???!!!!! And yep, there's the lead for the Cubs. They're so much better than every other team in the NL Central, it's scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I predict Lou overusing Carlos Marmol this season, Cotts was brought in, he hit a batter, then Lou called in for Marmol. Let's go Brew Crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWin Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) And yep, there's the lead for the Cubs. They're so much better than every other team in the NL Central, it's scary. And they scored after 2 were out and nobody on. With their pitching staff and offense they have a chance to win every single game. Even though that won't happen, that's still sick (and annoying as a Sox fan). Also, not only are they far and away better than everyone else in their division, but they really are one of the top teams in the whole NL. They were last year too and look how that turned out...but I know they're not always going to go 3 and out in the first round of the playoffs. Edited April 10, 2009 by JustWin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 It's sad how Milwaukee has surrounded Fielder, Hart and Braun with such pathetic players. I'll go as far to say that team is done, as their window with all their young guys has closed. They have a brutal pitching staff with only two decent arms. Just two years ago, it looked like they could have a potential NL dynasty on their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 05:59 PM) It's sad how Milwaukee has surrounded Fielder, Hart and Braun with such pathetic players. I'll go as far to say that team is done, as their window with all their young guys has closed. They have a brutal pitching staff with only two decent arms. Just two years ago, it looked like they could have a potential NL dynasty on their hands. You know Fielder could be graded as soon as this July if they fall back far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Way to play that one, Alphonso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Way to blow a save Kevin Gregg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Ah yes, the weak link for the Cubs...Kevin Gregg. I can't believe Soriano wasn't playing no doubles. Anyone else see Vizcaino for the Cubs? I don't miss that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 06:11 PM) Ah yes, the weak link for the Cubs...Kevin Gregg. I can't believe Soriano wasn't playing no doubles. Anyone else see Vizcaino for the Cubs? I don't miss that guy. They were saying how Wood = Gregg, and its really a wash.. Isn't that second save hes blown already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 That's the first of many to come. I wonder how long he's going to last in this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Kevin Gregg is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (chimpy2121 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 06:13 PM) That's the first of many to come. I wonder how long he's going to last in this role. If Lou is watching and paying attention, this should be his last chance. Or maybe a couple more shots at Wrigley. Marmol is so much better and its not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (chimpy2121 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 11:13 PM) That's the first of many to come. I wonder how long he's going to last in this role. I hope not for long, because Marmol is such a game-changer in the set-up man spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Cubs loose on the play at the plate, hard to tell if he was safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Brewers win! The Cubs are such a classless team. Hill's explosion there was so uncalled for. Edited April 10, 2009 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Love the temper tantrum ball throw there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Ha. He was so safe and it wasn't even close. That's a tough decision for Theriot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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