Felix Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 01:21 PM) I wish the Sox had this opinion. I hope when the go up to Minnesota this year they have the attitude that they are going to kick their ass, not tipping their cap to everything Twins like the last few years, and waiting for something to go wrong. I fully agree. I'm tired of going to the Dome for each series and seeing the Sox lay and egg. It'd be nice for once to see the Sox actually play well in the Dome, but I'm not holding my breath. Edited June 1, 2009 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (Felix @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) I fully agree. I'm tired of going to the Dome for each series and seeing the Sox lay and egg. It'd be nice for once to see the Sox actually play well in the Dome, but I'm not holding my breath. The mojo, the mental edge that the Twins had over the Sox for so long was exorcised when we won game 163. Home or road, we'll kick their butts this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Papelbon trying to f*ck us over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 09:08 PM) Papelbon trying to f*ck us over. he came through... Looks like the Twins are home again, so look for everyone to knob them and completely ignore that they are just following the trend of dominating at home and sucking on the road and they've played more home games than than the Tigers and Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) So the Twins traded Johan Santana, Matt Garza, and Jason Barlett for this: Delmon Young: .231/.272/.265 1 HR (barely got over the wall and BA would've had a chance at it,) 14 RBI's, 1 2B, 5 GIDP's, 41 K's in 117 at-bats Carlos Gomez: .217/.276/.302 0 HR, 4 RBI's, 4 SB, 3 CS, 26 K's in 106 at-bats Edited June 4, 2009 by santo=dorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Delmon hasn't had an extra base hit since Apr 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 05:40 AM) So the Twins traded Johan Santana, Matt Garza, and Jason Barlett for this: Delmon Young: .231/.272/.265 1 HR (barely got over the wall and BA would've had a chance at it,) 14 RBI's, 1 2B, 5 GIDP's, 41 K's in 117 at-bats Carlos Gomez: .217/.276/.302 0 HR, 4 RBI's, 4 SB, 3 CS, 26 K's in 106 at-bats The Twins could be a few years from a Pirates like existance if these are the types of trades they are pulling off. A big part of their success has been trading guys who were about to cost them large amounts of money, for guys that became cornerstones for the next five years. Their last few deal have been dismal, leaving them to depend entirely on their farms system and washed up bargain free agents. That is not a good formula for success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 10:18 AM) The Twins could be a few years from a Pirates like existance if these are the types of trades they are pulling off. A big part of their success has been trading guys who were about to cost them large amounts of money, for guys that became cornerstones for the next five years. Their last few deal have been dismal, leaving them to depend entirely on their farms system and washed up bargain free agents. That is not a good formula for success. They'll never be as bad as the Pirates as long as they have Mauer and Morneau. But I see where you're getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 11:15 AM) They'll never be as bad as the Pirates as long as they have Mauer and Morneau. But I see where you're getting at. Realistically, if they don't start hitting on some of the deals soon, the team will fall to the bottom of the division. Once that happens attendence historically falls to near nothing. If they get to the point of drawing 15,000 a night like they did in the late 90's, they won't be able to afford one, or both, of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 09:23 AM) Realistically, if they don't start hitting on some of the deals soon, the team will fall to the bottom of the division. Once that happens attendence historically falls to near nothing. If they get to the point of drawing 15,000 a night like they did in the late 90's, they won't be able to afford one, or both, of those guys. New ballpark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) Realistically, if they don't start hitting on some of the deals soon, the team will fall to the bottom of the division. Once that happens attendence historically falls to near nothing. If they get to the point of drawing 15,000 a night like they did in the late 90's, they won't be able to afford one, or both, of those guys. 15k was a great night back in teh mid-late 90's. Games were more like 8-9-10k, but that was tickets sold. actual people at the Dome was more like 5 or 6k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 12:15 PM) New ballpark? If they don't win, it doesn't matter. Twins fans don't go to see a loser. History bears that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Anybody know what happened to M. Cabrera toady? He left the Tigers/Red Sox game in the 2nd inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Dontrelle is looking good again, 2.1 IP, 0 H, 5 ER, 5 BB, 1 HBP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (kane0730 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 12:55 PM) Anybody know what happened to M. Cabrera toady? He left the Tigers/Red Sox game in the 2nd inning. yahoo says he left with a left hamstring injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 11:15 AM) They'll never be as bad as the Pirates as long as they have Mauer and Morneau. But I see where you're getting at. If they arent going to be able to pony up the big bucks when these two become FA, then they are going to be like the Pirates watching Bonilla and Bonds exit stage left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 11:01 AM) If they arent going to be able to pony up the big bucks when these two become FA, then they are going to be like the Pirates watching Bonilla and Bonds exit stage left They already extended Morneau. 6 years, $80 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 05:40 AM) So the Twins traded Johan Santana, Matt Garza, and Jason Barlett for this: Delmon Young: .231/.272/.265 1 HR (barely got over the wall and BA would've had a chance at it,) 14 RBI's, 1 2B, 5 GIDP's, 41 K's in 117 at-bats Carlos Gomez: .217/.276/.302 0 HR, 4 RBI's, 4 SB, 3 CS, 26 K's in 106 at-bats As a Sox fan, I see nothing wrong with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 01:10 PM) They already extended Morneau. 6 years, $80 million. Was that the same type of contract that Buehrle got before, that takes him a little bit past his Arb years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 01:53 PM) Was that the same type of contract that Buehrle got before, that takes him a little bit past his Arb years? that contract bought out 1 or 2 Arb years. Mauer contract runs out after the 2010 season. The current contract bought out his arb and 1 year F.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Mileage Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Go Roils! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Indians optioned RHP Fausto Carmona to Arizona League Indians. How the mighty have fallen! Carmona heads to rookie league ball to try and figure out how to pitch again. It doesn't seem extreme, based upon his performance -- a 7.42 ERA, with more walks (41) than strikeouts (36) in 60 2/3 innings. Carmona did the same thing in 2008, so he's been lost for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 How mighty was Carmona? He had one good year as a starter. He was an awful closer and now is an awful starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Mileage Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Carmona was never a closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Carmona was never a closer. They tried at the end of July 2006 and blew his first 3 chances. Farnsworth has been studly as of late. 3.38 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, 19 K's in 18.2 IP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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