ozzfest Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I can't decide this for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Given Richard's playoff performance, and his fearlessness, I like him a lot right now. If he can just keep the ball on the ground, I see him as taking the role of a Buehrle. Broadway looks like he still has a little bit to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (ozzfest @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:18 PM) I can't decide this for myself. Lets see. One is a right handed control pitcher with no control who has a propensity to give up the long ball. And the other guy is a lefty. I go with Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzfest Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 12:23 AM) Lets see. One is a right handed control pitcher with no control who has a propensity to give up the long ball. And the other guy is a lefty. I go with Richard. And you implying Richard's not a control pitcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I am sorry, Broadway has no future. He is a AAA pitcher at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshiner Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 similar styles but the lefty wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 When we drafted Broadway I was excited but like so many other prospects he hasn't panned out yet. I wouldn't quite say he's a AAA pitcher yet though. He's still young and could possibly develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (ozzfest @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:26 PM) And you implying Richard's not a control pitcher? No, Broadway is a control pitcher with no control and gives up lots of homers. Richard is a lefty, and is breathing. I give the advantage to Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (Ishmookie @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:29 PM) When we drafted Broadway I was excited but like so many other prospects he hasn't panned out yet. I wouldn't quite say he's a AAA pitcher yet though. He's still young and could possibly develop. I hated the draft pick when it happened. He and his twin McCullough are perfect examples of low risk, low ceiling talent that we hopefully are going to avoid in the future. We already had this guy in our system before Felix Diaz. Except Felix pitched well at AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 12:32 AM) I hated the draft pick when it happened. He and his twin McCullough are perfect examples of low risk, low ceiling talent that we hopefully are going to avoid in the future. We already had this guy in our system before Felix Diaz. Except Felix pitched well at AAA. Were you excited when Poreda was drafted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (Ishmookie @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:34 PM) Were you excited when Poreda was drafted? I wanted Porcello over him, but at least he has tools. And when Lance was drafted I wanted Garza or Carillo over him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:36 PM) I wanted Porcello over him, but at least he has tools. And when Lance was drafted I wanted Garza or Carillo over him as well. Can you really blame the Sox for not wanting to give a high school pitcher a major league deal? Putting a 19 year old on the 40 man roster can seriously f*** things up 3 years down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:39 PM) Can you really blame the Sox for not wanting to give a high school pitcher a major league deal? Putting a 19 year old on the 40 man roster can seriously f*** things up 3 years down the road. I can't argue with the fact that Boras and his silly demands for major league deals for the 18 year old messes it up. The draft needs to get a pure slotting method so we can neutralize the Boras effect with amateur talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Given Richard's talent and given Broadway's general suckitude i'd say CR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 At least Broadway was a pretty good looking stud in college (I personally still like him, kid has good movement on his pitches) now McCullough.... ugh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Definitely Richard. He can handle himself against major league pitching. Broadway cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I dont know if this actually makes sense but, Im going to say Richard has the chance to make a bigger impact for sure, but as a relief pitcher. If we are comparing them as starters only, I think Broadway has a better shot to stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 03:10 AM) I dont know if this actually makes sense but, Im going to say Richard has the chance to make a bigger impact for sure, but as a relief pitcher. If we are comparing them as starters only, I think Broadway has a better shot to stick. Not sure how I understand that Richard is a worse SP prospect than Broadway when Richard has a better fastball and better secondary pitches as well. I agree that Richard is going to be a fantastic reliever, just color me confused with this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (earthshiner @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 11:28 PM) similar styles but the lefty wins. Similar styles? They are about as opposite as pitchers can be. Broadway can barely scrape 90, and attempts to use control (which he doesn't have enough of) and a variety of breaking pitches to fool hitters. Richard can hit 94-95, has life on two fastballs but needs a bit more in the way of secondary pitches, and is far more athletic. I don't know of a single thing where they are alike, other than big toothy grins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzfest Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 Looks like its Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Broadway has no future. I actually like Richard a good bit. While I have no doubt he'd be a solid reliever, I can see him stabilizing the back of the rotation for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) I just got off a conference call with Mr. Wizzo from the Bozo Show, Miss Cleo, Dionne Warwick, and John Edwards. Apparently 2008 marked Broadway's last performance ever in MLB, and furthermore it looks like Mr. Broadway will be off the 40-man roster very soon. The Sox have too much talent to keep that guy on the roster. As for Clayton, I'm pessimistic about his chances as a starter, but I think he could be dynamite against lefties out of the bullpen and I think he has the repertoire to pitch a few innings as a LR also. He seems to have great composure out there also. I wouldn't be surprised to see Richard eventually wind up with a bullpen UT type role, where he could spot-start a doubleheader and go 3-4, then come back a few days later and work the 7th inning, then back to LR, then in to face a tough lefty in the 6th with RISP, etc. I believe every bullpen needs a guy like that and I think Richard might be our guy. Edited March 5, 2009 by Kenny Hates Prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 05:29 AM) No, Broadway is a control pitcher with no control and gives up lots of homers. Richard is a lefty, and is breathing. I give the advantage to Richard. Maybe we can trade him for a real prospect then? Personally I think they both might make it with this team eventually. They are young and still learning to pitch in the bigs. If they can learn to keep the ball down and pitch inside they have a future. Edited March 5, 2009 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Richard is already a better pitcher than Broadway ever will be. He isnt a major leaguer and is just another story of a guy who couldnt make that last step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Even if they had exactly the same stuff, you take the lefty over the righty any day. Richard has better stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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