Balta1701 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 11:06 AM) I wonder if Holt will want to go to a team where he can stay indoors and play on a better surface than say Soldier Field where his speed would argubly be more of an asset Holt's at the age where he might have to focus more on who's giving him the bigger contract as opposed to where he can get the best numbers. If someone holds him for 2-3 years, he'll be a 36 year old WR on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 02:53 PM) Holt's at the age where he might have to focus more on who's giving him the bigger contract as opposed to where he can get the best numbers. If someone holds him for 2-3 years, he'll be a 36 year old WR on the market. Ah yes, as Housh said, $$$$ talks. I think he'd be a good fit for the Vikings actually (if they could fit him into the cap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 10:37 AM) I agree with everything you said but the bolded part, mostly because even on his 35 year old legs he is better than 90 percent of the WRs in the NFL Not if Kyle Orton is his quarterback. T.O. has always had a quarterback who is at least pretty good, if not really good, throwing him the ball (which isn't a diss on him, the same could be said for most great WR's), but Owens' weaknesses and the decaying of his talent due to age would really be exposed if he had a poor QB, such as Orton, throwing him the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 TO has never played in a playoff game and his team won. He's no longer even a top 15 WR in the NFL (obviously he's better then what we have, but who isn't? Some people wanted us to break the bank on Laverneus Coles for f***'s sake). He led the NFL in drops last year I believe, or he was in the top 3. He's a cancer and he'll kill the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 06:16 PM) TO has never played in a playoff game and his team won. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) Well, there ya go. Pick him up now that he's won 1. But seriously, 1 playoff game. I know I was wrong, but 1 doesn't do me any good. Plus, all this thread is doing is wasting everyone's time. There's no way Angelo goes out and gets him anyways. Edited March 6, 2009 by whitesoxbrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 10:02 PM) Well, there ya go. Pick him up now that he's won 1. But seriously, 1 playoff game. I know I was wrong, but 1 doesn't do me any good. Plus, all this thread is doing is wasting everyone's time. There's no way Angelo goes out and gets him anyways. Seriously, information on the internet is but a click away. Educate yourself when you make these arguments so your bad points arent exposed over and over again. Taking away the Superbowl, Terrell Owens has been in 10 playoff games In all of his playoff games he has caught 43 passes for 629 yards and 5 TDs, and he has won 4 playoff games, not 1. He has caught one of the biggest passes in SF history vs the Packers from Steve Young when he was sandwiched between 3 defenders and had his bell completely rung and still held on for the TD. Terrell Owens is far from the Playoff newbie you are making him out to be. His problem lately is that he hasnt advanced or made the playoffs in the last 3 years, so people are noticing it and calling him out now(like you). This thread isnt a waste of everyones time, it was about TO being released Edited March 6, 2009 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 09:16 PM) TO has never played in a playoff game and his team won. He's no longer even a top 15 WR in the NFL (obviously he's better then what we have, but who isn't? Some people wanted us to break the bank on Laverneus Coles for f***'s sake). He led the NFL in drops last year I believe, or he was in the top 3. He's a cancer and he'll kill the Bears. Oh dear. Talent wise he is. Name me 15 Wide Receivers who are currently more talented than Terrell Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) I rarely agree with whitesoxbrian but in this case I'm agreeing that T.O. would do more harm than good for the Bears and turn Chicago into a circus sideshow. I'm not interested. Although I still think T.O. can play... but it's really just not worth it. Edited March 6, 2009 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 There's no way in hell I sign T.O. if I'm the Bears. Unless he's working with Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he won't be happy. We can barely even call Kyle Orton an average QB let alone one that T.O. would be happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 09:15 AM) Oh dear. Talent wise he is. Name me 15 Wide Receivers who are currently more talented than Terrell Owens. Good luck naming 10 receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 01:32 PM) Good luck naming 10 receivers. Andre Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Brandon Marshall Greg Jennings Anquan Boldin Reggie Wayne Steve Smith Randy Moss Roddy White Hines Ward Marques Colston Chad Jonson (I'll chalk up last year as an aberration) Donald Driver Torry Holt Calvin Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 04:57 PM) Andre Johnson - Yes Larry Fitzgerald - Yes Brandon Marshall - Yes Greg Jennings - Debatable Anquan Boldin - Debatable Reggie Wayne - Debatable Steve Smith - I would actually say yes Randy Moss - Yes Roddy White - Debatable Hines Ward - Debtable Marques Colston - Debtable Chad Jonson (I'll chalk up last year as an aberration) - Definitely not Donald Driver - No Torry Holt - No Calvin Johnson - I would also say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 You would rather have TO over Chad Johnson? If you could pick between Boldin and TO right now, if they were both 35 but producing what they are now, you'd really have to think about that? BTW- I'm sorry everyone. Somebody posted that TO has never won a playoff game on talkbears so I took their word for it. I think it was Drunkbomber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 07:29 AM) Seriously, information on the internet is but a click away. Educate yourself when you make these arguments so your bad points arent exposed over and over again. Taking away the Superbowl, Terrell Owens has been in 10 playoff games In all of his playoff games he has caught 43 passes for 629 yards and 5 TDs, and he has won 4 playoff games, not 1. He has caught one of the biggest passes in SF history vs the Packers from Steve Young when he was sandwiched between 3 defenders and had his bell completely rung and still held on for the TD. Terrell Owens is far from the Playoff newbie you are making him out to be. His problem lately is that he hasnt advanced or made the playoffs in the last 3 years, so people are noticing it and calling him out now(like you). This thread isnt a waste of everyones time, it was about TO being released "OWENS OWENS OWENS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Some of the very best players in any given sport never win a playoff game, a series, or a trophy. I cannot understand how that takes away from what that individual has done. Just because a player has not been apart of something in the past does not mean it cannot happen in the future. One player is exactly that, one player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 07:35 PM) "OWENS OWENS OWENS" The thing is, I dont even want Owens(I see him for the cancer he is), but what WSB said was just flat out wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) Andre Johnson(yes) Larry Fitzgerald(yes) Brandon Marshall(yes) Greg Jennings(NO) Anquan Boldin(NO) Reggie Wayne(NO) Steve Smith(yes) Randy Moss(not anymore) Roddy White(Maybe) Hines Ward(NO) Marques Colston(NO) Chad Jonson (I'll chalk up last year as an aberration)(NO) Donald Driver(NO) Torry Holt(NO) Calvin Johnson(NO) So you made a list of 4 WR's and if he repeats this season Id include Roddy White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 6, 2009 -> 05:36 PM) You would rather have TO over Chad Johnson? If you could pick between Boldin and TO right now, if they were both 35 but producing what they are now, you'd really have to think about that? BTW- I'm sorry everyone. Somebody posted that TO has never won a playoff game on talkbears so I took their word for it. I think it was Drunkbomber? I'd take TO. You have to take into account the offense both of them were in. Garrett's offense sucks in comparison to Todd Haley's. I'd take TO by far. He's still a freak of an athlete and the reason why his numbers were not as good has nothing to do with ability, even with TO being 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 So we're going to revisit this again, huh? You'd take the superior athlete over the better player? Give him the player over the athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Supposedly signed with Bills, 1 year 6.5mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 John Clayton is reporting that Terrell Owens has agreed to a 1 year, $6.5M deal with the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3960653 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Because if there's any coach who can keep Owens in line, it's...Dick Jauron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 01:56 PM) So we're going to revisit this again, huh? You'd take the superior athlete over the better player? Give him the player over the athlete. TO is the better player. Just because he didn't play an a fun offense like Boldin doesn't mean he isn't better. It's like putting Randy Moss on a teamwhere John Shoop was the offensive coordinator and Mushin Muhammed on a team with Mike Martz as the offensive coordinator. Mushin might outperform Randy, but god knows Randy is a much better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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