Chisoxfn Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 http://www.soxnet.net/snreport/370-11.26.html By: Jason Gage Written: 11-26-02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 500,000 +????? thats a bit high considering that their number one starter makes almost half less than that........and they cut him 15,000 in the process....whos f***ed up idea was this little gem???? no wonder why we dont get anywhere lately.... for what little kelly has done in the past couple of years ( and dont get me wrong here i always did like the guy) they should have just cut him loose and saved the money........geez........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 Thats just 200k over minimum salary. Look at his numbers, the guy is flat out one of the best left handed relievers in baseball. I never was a huge fan of his, but I can't deny his stats. This guy has proven, when healthy, that he's damn good. He was great this year as well as 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnThats just 200k over minimum salary. Look at his numbers, the guy is flat out one of the best left handed relievers in baseball. I never was a huge fan of his, but I can't deny his stats. This guy has proven, when healthy, that he's damn good. one of the best left handed relievers in baseball???....cmon..i like kelly alot but he is very one demensional...he is only good for a one or two batters..look at his IP..what were they last year??40-50?? a top lefty reliever is mike stanton...and he will command quite a few million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnThats just 200k over minimum salary. Look at his numbers, the guy is flat out one of the best left handed relievers in baseball. I never was a huge fan of his, but I can't deny his stats. This guy has proven, when healthy, that he's damn good. one of the best left handed relievers in baseball???....cmon..i like kelly alot but he is very one demensional...he is only good for a one or two batters..look at his IP..what were they last year??40-50?? a top lefty reliever is mike stanton...and he will command quite a few million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Good signing! Wunsch has been one of our best assets in the bullpen when he's healthy. Now I can have him take me to lunch for another year! Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Because of Wunsch's funky delivery, he can only be a LOOGY (Lefty One Out GuY). It was a good signing, and I would want Kelly up there to get a LeftHander out. Yes, he is probably one of the best situational lefties in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 Baggs, Stanton aside, not many lefties can do what Wunsch does. I mean theirs Remlinger and Hammond on the Braves and then Arthur Rhodes, but thats about all I can think of. Billy Wagner is another that comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 jas, I have to dissagree about Wunsch. I've never been much of a fan of his. all he has is his motion. doesn't have the best stuff and his location is adequate. I don't consider him anything more than a situational lefty out of a pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 He is just a situational lefty and like I say I don't think he has the best stuff, but I can't really deny the numbers he's put up. Last season after the sluggish start, which is due to his injury, he was brilliant, just like he was in 2000 when he was healthy, which was the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 i just cant fathom the thought of 500k on a situational guy when we need a starter and have one whos making half that.......if kw were smart ... knowing how badly mark wanted to bolt to st louis he would make him a great offer which would make him want to stay around for a while.... mark seeing all these mediocre guys getting more than he is got to get on his nerves a bit... i know it gets on mine and im not getting any money.......lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 Well they are expected to start the negotiations next Monday, right after the Thanksgiving Holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 well it damn well be better than 500k..... if not ... ill tell ya what i would do if i were mark... i would wait and see what happens at the end of next year when my contract is up and then if they didnt offer me what i was worth ... i would go to arbritration and get that and then some..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 Originally posted by hotsoxchick1well it damn well be better than 500k..... if not ... ill tell ya what i would do if i were mark... i would wait and see what happens at the end of next year when my contract is up and then if they didnt offer me what i was worth ... i would go to arbritration and get that and then some..... They will never take Mark to arbitration. He'd kick their ass like no other pitcher has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 Trust me, he's going to be signing most likely by December 7th. I smell 5 mill a year for about 3 yrs. Thats really a fair deal for both sides to me. Buerhle gets a lot considering the Sox don't really have to negotiate with him, while the Sox are making him happy which puts them in better position to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 Buehrle said he was seeking roughly 3 million a year, during the season. I would have offered him 4 yrs, 15 million on the spot. I'm a generous GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnTrust me, he's going to be signing most likely by December 7th. I smell 5 mill a year for about 3 yrs. Thats really a fair deal for both sides to me. Since he's been talking about bolting to St. Louis, wouldn't we want to tie him up for longer than three years?!? I wouldn't feel very comfortable here if the contract was for any less than four or five years. They better give him something like a $20 million contract for five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I think due to his age...... we should keep it to 3 yrs..... I mean hate to play devil's advocate... but what if he gets hurt..... or slumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPinStripes Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 JR wont give him anything over 3 years. In this case, i cant blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 3 yrs is fine. We can always talk to him about reupping during the final season or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 all im saying is that three years will be fine enough for me but he better be paid well... at least better than that useless piece of doo doo wunch is being paid.... cause if he isnt if i were mark i would make a break for the border..........or at least play dead this year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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