Rowand44 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 09:31 AM) If you are a small school and a lower level of opponents the entire season, your record must be stellar or you must win your conference to get in. Its pretty simple actually for them. On a whole, the 2nd place team in those small conferences barely match up with the 4th or 5th place team in major conferences, its just how it is. Well Creighton did win a share of the MVC and they had 26 wins so they matched those criteria. To put that in some perspective: CU is the only team in the last decade to have at least 26 wins and a top 50 rpi and not make the NCAA's, go figure. And Jenks, I do think Creighton should have made the field but I also think Zona should have been in over some of the Big 10 teams. Two rpi top 25 wins in the non conference is pretty hard for any bubble team to match. Granted, as you said they had a lot of opportunities but I still don't think you can over look some of those wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Vitale can rag all he wants about the East being the toughest region, but this region is straight up stacked. The top 3 seeds all won their respective major conferences... and plenty of good historical teams to go around. Btw, Arizona is favored by 1.5 to beat Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuiceCruz16 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 This is my chalk full of upsets region. 1st round not much for me just Siena over Ohio State 2nd round B.C. over Mich St., W. Virginia over Kansas 3rd round Wake over Louisville Wake vs. West Virginia for the trip to the four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 wake is such a tough team to figure out. i think they're final four good, but they hardly ever play like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 08:31 AM) If you are a small school and a lower level of opponents the entire season, your record must be stellar or you must win your conference to get in. Its pretty simple actually for them. On a whole, the 2nd place team in those small conferences barely match up with the 4th or 5th place team in major conferences, its just how it is. I'd also like to add (and let me stress I don't think this is right. And I'm sure most people already know), but don't think for a second the committee doesn't factor in overall talent and who they think people want to see. And I know for one I'd rather watch guys like Jordan Hill, Chase Budinger and Nic Wise over Booker Woodfox and whoever else is on that team. Again, not saying it's right. And I'd probably feel much differently if I were a fan of a mid-major school, but it's reality. Edited March 16, 2009 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 12:31 PM) wake is such a tough team to figure out. i think they're final four good, but they hardly ever play like it. Indeed. This team has the most devastating combination of size/length/athleticism/depth in the country. And you flat have no idea which team is going to show up. I'm glad I'm not a fan of this team. I'd go f***ing crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 I love Wake, but I see them tripped up in the first round. Cleveland State ain't scared of anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I'm having a really hard time picking a winner between BC/USC, Utah/Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 08:50 PM) I'm having a really hard time picking a winner between BC/USC, Utah/Arizona. flip a coin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 points Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 15, 2009 -> 06:32 PM) Michigan State and Kansas are paper tigers. Spartans will wax em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 USC in the elite 8. book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 05:54 PM) I love Wake, but I see them tripped up in the first round. Cleveland State ain't scared of anyone. There is literally nothing Wake could do that would shock me. They could win it all, lose in the 1st round, or anything in between, and I wouldn't be surprised too much. As for this region, the more I look at it, the more I think it's the hardest region of the 4, which of course makes no sense since Louisville is the top overall seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I have a feeling that NDSU will give Kansas trouble, but I can't allow myself to pick that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 QUOTE (Felix @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 09:39 AM) I have a feeling that NDSU will give Kansas trouble, but I can't allow myself to pick that. I had NDSU over Kansas in all brackets till last minute where I switched it. Idk why I would pick them, nobody else did I'll go with the safe maneuver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I didn't pick ND State because I assumed they wouldn't be able to guard/control Aldrich, but he hasn't been the factor I would have expected yet. Edit: Collins was better than he is capable of, but Aldrich was the difference. Collins vs. Woodside was mostly pretty close. ND State didn't have another dynamic weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 15, 2009 -> 07:20 PM) BC in the Elite 8! QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 15, 2009 -> 07:22 PM) Doubtful. Props to you, Slav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Anyone still think Arizona shouldn't be in the tourney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 11:49 AM) I didn't pick ND State because I assumed they wouldn't be able to guard/control Aldrich, but he hasn't been the factor I would have expected yet. Edit: Collins was better than he is capable of, but Aldrich was the difference. Collins vs. Woodside was mostly pretty close. ND State didn't have another dynamic weapon. Collins did too much, utilize Marcus Morris, Tyshawn and Morningstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 08:40 PM) Anyone still think Arizona shouldn't be in the tourney? Utah at a 5 is a joke like no other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 WOOO CLEVELAND STATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 LMAO@WF. Getting their asses waxed by Cleveland f***ing state. It's still early, but my bracket goes up in flames if they lose tonight. I just can't figure this team out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 09:17 PM) LMAO@WF. Getting their asses waxed by Cleveland f***ing state. It's still early, but my bracket goes up in flames if they lose tonight. I just can't figure this team out. my soxtalk bracket takes a huge s*** if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 My Midwest Bracket will be seriously f***ed if Wake loses. My only hope is if Louisville runs the table to the Final Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 07:40 PM) Anyone still think Arizona shouldn't be in the tourney? They've got two potential lottery picks, a former 5-star recruit and one of the better point guards in the country. Yes, they should be in the tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 09:21 PM) My Midwest Bracket will be seriously f***ed if Wake loses. My only hope is if Louisville runs the table to the Final Four. How do those 2 thoughts go together? Wake would have to play Louisville in the sweet 16. How does Louisville winning the regional help you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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