flavum Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 The first Twitter from Cowley was fine...announcement at 2:30. Should have left it at that until he had a real story. That said, I'm glad Juan Pierre is not coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) If you refuse to sign free agents to market deals, then you have to do stuff like this. I'm fine with it. putting a staff together piecemeal is how we did it immediately prior to 05. If it means payroll stays up later by getting big bashers in the lineup (once Dye/Pk/JT are gone) then i will be ok with doing it this way. But Danks is smart to wait and see. Edited March 22, 2009 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 So how many years of FA did we buy out from Gavin? One or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) It makes sense that Floyd would jump at this before Danks, in that he has already faced some serious turmoil in his development already. Went for the security. Edited March 22, 2009 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 02:30 PM) None. Ouch. Any word on option years? Maybe a 5th year at 10ish million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 02:30 PM) None. Do we know there's no options involved because this is an incredibly risky move with only a moderate payoff if there aren't. Alright there's an option for 2013. That makes much more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Ouch. Any word on option years? Maybe a 5th year at 10ish million? Cowley just said option for 2013 which could make the deal worth $25M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 My Guess: 2009: $500K 2010: $2.5M 2011: $5M 2012: $7M 2013: $9.5M team option, $500K buyout (first year of Free Agency) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 seems like a great deal for the sox. not really that big of a risk considering the cost of strating pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 02:36 PM) My Guess: 2009: $500K 2010: $2.5M 2011: $5M 2012: $7M 2013: $9.5M team option, $500K If Gavin puts up the type of numbers that Garland put up while he was here (32 starts, 220 IP, 4.5 era, and keeps the ball down) that is a great, great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 yeah i love this. for all the potential floyd has this is a great deal. even if he's only mediocre it's a great deal w/ the cost of pitching these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Floyd will earn $750,000 in 2009, $2.75 million in 2010, $5 million in 2011 and $7 million in 2012. The Sox hold a $9.5 million option for 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I like it, nicely played KW, Rick Hahn, and Jerry Reinsdorf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune....-extension.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Good to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 For fun, read through the thread when MacDougal signed an extension buying out his arbitration years http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55799 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) For fun, read through the thread when MacDougal signed an extension buying out his arbitration years http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55799 I'm an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I would have waited one more year with him before signing him to an extension. Floyd can still go either way, IMO. However, luckily none of the money is a ridiculous amount if this doesn't pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 03:18 PM) I'm an idiot. It was a good deal at the time. No one could have predicted that MacDougal would never find the strike zone again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 It was a good deal at the time. No one could have predicted that MacDougal would never find the strike zone again. It's still a complete waste of cash. If I bought a bunch of stocks in a company that would completely collapse 6 months it would be a bad deal no matter how many pennies on the dollar I spent. Don't think Cleveland regrets the deal they gave Travis Hafner? What about the Royals with Angel Berrora? But, but he was the rookie of the year! It looked so good at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I'd prefer we locked up Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) I'd prefer we locked up Danks. He's going to cost significantly more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) It's still a complete waste of cash. If I bought a bunch of stocks in a company that would completely collapse 6 months it would be a bad deal no matter how many pennies on the dollar I spent. Don't think Cleveland regrets the deal they gave Travis Hafner? What about the Royals with Angel Berrora? But, but he was the rookie of the year! It looked so good at the time. I don't disagree with you that is was a bad deal, but you can't really fault anyone for making such a deal. Edited March 22, 2009 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I don't disagree with you that is was a bad deal, but you can't really fault anyone for making such a deal. Sure you can. They were buying high on a guy giving him a long term deal when he wasn't a free agent for year to come. Same thing with Gavin here. Why not pay him the minimum for 1 more year to see if last season was abnormal or a sign of better things to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Mar 22, 2009 -> 03:19 PM) I would have waited one more year with him before signing him to an extension. Floyd can still go either way, IMO. However, luckily none of the money is a ridiculous amount if this doesn't pan out. If you wait one more year with Floyd, he's looking at 3 years, $18-20 mill plus an option worth probably $10-12 mill. Buying out these years now is the way to go, even if it's a bit risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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