Poreda likely to B'ham

[Princess Dye]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2946

 

 

I selfishly wanted to see a fireballer added to this bullpen, but I guess we have to think longterm foremost

Edited March 29, 2009 by Princess Dye

[scenario]

We have a discussion in the FutureSox forum on this too.

 

Birmingham is going to be loaded. Could be the Sox are trying to have their next 'core' come up together as a group?

Edited March 29, 2009 by scenario

[JPN366]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2946

 

 

I selfishly wanted to see a fireballer added to this bullpen, but I guess we have to think longterm foremost

 

 

I told you guys he was too raw for the majors right now and would come back to B'ham for more seasoning.

[Kyyle23]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2946

 

 

I selfishly wanted to see a fireballer added to this bullpen, but I guess we have to think longterm foremost

 

Apparently Jenks, Thornton and Dotel don't throw hard enough?

[JPN366]

Apparently Jenks, Thornton and Dotel don't throw hard enough?

 

 

From what I've seen of him in person, Aaron seems like throwing 98 MPH is second nature to him. It would be scary as hell if he actually went max effort to throw. He could be a deadly late inning reliever in the future if starting doesn't work out.

[Kyyle23]

From what I've seen of him in person, Aaron seems like throwing 98 MPH is second nature to him. It would be scary as hell if he actually went max effort to throw. He could be a deadly late inning reliever in the future if starting doesn't work out.

 

I have no doubt, im not knocking Poreda. But Thornton (to me at least) is the same way, he throws an effortless 98MPH, and we all know Jenks can dial it up when he needs to, and Dotel is also a hard thrower.

 

Im just questioning the comment "I selfishly wanted a fireballer" as if there were none in the pen already

[JPN366]

I have no doubt, im not knocking Poreda. But Thornton (to me at least) is the same way, he throws an effortless 98MPH, and we all know Jenks can dial it up when he needs to, and Dotel is also a hard thrower.

 

Im just questioning the comment "I selfishly wanted a fireballer" as if there were none in the pen already

 

Good point, Thornton does throw effortlessly.

[Princess Dye]

Im just questioning the comment "I selfishly wanted a fireballer" as if there were none in the pen already

 

Yr gonna have to find for me the part where I said there were none already.

 

I'm pretty much saying I wanted another. When Carrasco comes out in a tight situation at some point, you'll want another too..

Edited March 29, 2009 by Princess Dye

[Kyyle23]

Yr gonna have to find for me the part where I said there were none already.

 

I'm pretty much saying I wanted another. When Carrasco comes out in a tight situation at some point, you'll want another too..

 

Sure, that "All fire" bullpen worked brilliantly in 2007, lets do that again!

[Princess Dye]

Sure, that "All fire" bullpen worked brilliantly in 2007, lets do that again!

 

So Carrasco is a deeply valued member of this staff then?

 

If Poreda's development was not an issue, are you saying youd keep one of our soft toss guys over him?

Edited March 29, 2009 by Princess Dye

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Sure, that "All fire" bullpen worked brilliantly in 2007, lets do that again!

I remember how stoked everybody on this board was re: all the + arms for the 2007 season . I was flamed for suggesting a bunch of inexperienced relievers was not the way to go. I never played fantasy baseball but don't you get more points for more K's ? Fireballers always = exciting even if they don't always = results. KW learned his lesson and signed Dotel and Linebrink.

[Kyyle23]

So Carrasco is a deeply valued member of this staff then?

 

If Poreda's development was not an issue, are you saying youd keep one of our soft toss guys over him?

 

Probably, yes. Every good pitcher needs a changeup, and so do bullpens. You cant run flamethrowers out there everytime, you have to be able to make batters uncomfortable. Besides, this isnt Poreda vs Carrasco, This is Poreda vs Williams, Ozzie cant go into the season too deep in lefties, and Richard is probably going to be in the bullpen as the swingman

 

And from someone complaining just one post ago that I was putting words in your mouth, now you are going to do the same thing? Funny

[Princess Dye]

Probably, yes. Every good pitcher needs a changeup, and so do bullpens. You cant run flamethrowers out there everytime, you have to be able to make batters uncomfortable. Besides, this isnt Poreda vs Carrasco, This is Poreda vs Williams, Ozzie cant go into the season too deep in lefties, and Richard is probably going to be in the bullpen as the swingman

 

And from someone complaining just one post ago that I was putting words in your mouth, now you are going to do the same thing? Funny

 

Everything I framed as a question to you and you answered them. Answered well too.

 

Thats the way it's supposed to go, you didnt do that part though.

Edited March 29, 2009 by Princess Dye

[JPN366]

Peace guys...you both have valid, but differing opinions.

[elrockinMT]

Good move to get Poreda more seasoning. He will be a future "blazer" for the Sox soon enough.

Edited March 29, 2009 by elrockinMT

[elrockinMT]

Peace guys...you both have valid, but differing opinions.

 

 

I feel strongly both ways about that

[southsider2k5]

The organization is going to be better off in the long run getting Aaron the innings he needs to develop his secondary pitches. With both Jose and Bartolo seemingly healthy, plus the pen in solid shape, there is no need to rush the kid.