EvilMonkey Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 that would suck, I'd totally be in jail. Ha, I just thought, wouldn't it be funny if the "I smoked marijuana" for politicians in 20 years is "I illegally downloaded music" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 07:44 PM) "I illegally downloaded music" "Well, when we search your computer and find it you'll go to jail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 08:13 PM) "Well, when we search your computer and find it you'll go to jail" Five bucks says that Obama himself has downloaded music illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 08:36 PM) Five bucks says that Obama himself has downloaded music illegally. That's not even the point. The point is, this is another "transparent" act by the Obama administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 08:36 PM) Five bucks says that Obama himself has downloaded music illegally. He's done quite a few things illegally by his own admission. Some of them he doesn't even seem too keen on making legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 The other hypocritical thing here is, several of you all want to b**** Bush out for impedeing on our "rights"? Obama is taking this to a whole other level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 While I have no doubt the recording industry and film industry have lobbied extensively for something like this, and while I'm sure the government has put in money to the feasibility of the program, i'd bet a wager of one billion dollars that this does not go through. yes, the government is to prosecute tens (if not hundreds) of millions of citizens, right. Besides, probably wouldn't hold, "unreasonable search and seizure", this applies. Much ado about nothin. Cool though. Nice video. Back to blaming Obama for being worse than bush though, continue session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 This whole things seems rather fishy. Have there been no major news outlet reports of this, just a youtube video (and a fairly questionable one at that)? There were a lot of statements put forth in that video with no actual facts to back them up. Until I see some more concrete evidence, I'm going to assume this was just something taken completely out of context, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterf...Trade_Agreement It is wikipedia, so take it for what is's worth, but this is a real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 01:03 AM) While I have no doubt the recording industry and film industry have lobbied extensively for something like this, and while I'm sure the government has put in money to the feasibility of the program, i'd bet a wager of one billion dollars that this does not go through. yes, the government is to prosecute tens (if not hundreds) of millions of citizens, right. Besides, probably wouldn't hold, "unreasonable search and seizure", this applies. Much ado about nothin. Cool though. Nice video. Back to blaming Obama for being worse than bush though, continue session. And the government doesn't have to be the ones doing the prosecution, you can have quasi-business groupd like the Software Business Alliance who run those ads you hear every year about 'software piracy', trying to get people to turn in thier employers. The RIAA can use these laws to further go after grandma when her 13 year old grandkid downloaded an Eminem song on her computer while visiting last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 07:44 PM) that would suck, I'd totally be in jail. Ha, I just thought, wouldn't it be funny if the "I smoked marijuana" for politicians in 20 years is "I illegally downloaded music" "I didn't inhale" will become "I didn't listen to it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 02:03 AM) While I have no doubt the recording industry and film industry have lobbied extensively for something like this, and while I'm sure the government has put in money to the feasibility of the program, i'd bet a wager of one billion dollars that this does not go through. yes, the government is to prosecute tens (if not hundreds) of millions of citizens, right. Besides, probably wouldn't hold, "unreasonable search and seizure", this applies. Much ado about nothin. Cool though. Nice video. Back to blaming Obama for being worse than bush though, continue session. This whole process isn't even new. Except for the addition of the phrase "Obama administration," which, well, you know what happens after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 This just adds a few more steps to my travel. 1.) Wipe IPOD 2.) Get past security checkgate. 3.) Bring up encrypted virtual machine on laptop. 4.) Load itunes and retransfer my data to the ipod. 5.) Enjoy music on my 12 hour flight. 6.) See rule 1 before going through customs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 10:34 AM) This just adds a few more steps to my travel. 1.) Wipe IPOD 2.) Get past security checkgate. 3.) Bring up encrypted virtual machine on laptop. 4.) Load itunes and retransfer my data to the ipod. 5.) Enjoy music on my 12 hour flight. 6.) See rule 1 before going through customs. I think the problem with that is they've "illegalized" encryption in these cases. I know that's a made up word, but it is what it is. Under the guise of "national security" they can force you to give up your encrypted passwords, and if you refuse they can outright confiscate said device(s) for an unspecified amount of time. Welcome to 1984 in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Seriously, not worried. RIAA isn't prosecuting individuals anymore, they can try to go after waffles and stuff, good luck. Filesharing won. Am not sorry to see the majors collapse. Spending millions of dollars and ridiculous sums of money on awful videos, recouping on 1 out of every 10 album. They deserved to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 This has nothing to do with MP3's, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Really, I haven't found anywhere that says any of these tinfoil hat scenarios is actually going to happen officially. Pure speculation so far - to include the video in the OP - and it seems like legions of lemmings are following into panic mode for no reason. The government doesn't have so much power where they can just arbitrarily and unilaterally do something like this without it being made into national law, or without being struck down by the SCOTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (Chicken Little @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 11:40 AM) This has nothing to do with MP3's, people. Sure it doesn't. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 10:42 AM) Really, I haven't found anywhere that says any of these tinfoil hat scenarios is actually going to happen officially. Pure speculation so far - to include the video in the OP - and it seems like legions of lemmings are following into panic mode for no reason. The government doesn't have so much power where they can just arbitrarily and unilaterally do something like this without it being made into national law, or without being struck down by the SCOTUS. I agree, sounds like a lot of conspiracy theory to me, and if it ever did come to light, the supreme court would probably strike it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 11:43 AM) I agree, sounds like a lot of conspiracy theory to me, and if it ever did come to light, the supreme court would probably strike it down. I think it's the part about "secret negotiations" that has people spun up. But, and correct me if I'm wrong, things like that are always negotiated in secret, and for good reason. But the final thing, that can't be hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 10:43 AM) Sure it doesn't. Carry on. I'll just go back to Obama worshipping now. our Messiah!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 11:46 AM) I'll just go back to Obama worshipping now. our Messiah!!!! You could at least be a little less predictable once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Seriously though like I said in my first post, literally the only thing here that I didn't already know was that the Obama administration was considering criminalizing piracy. But as far as international bodies trying to enforce digital piracy laws, that's nothing new... but again, add in Obama's name and you get the usual suspects smelling blood in the water. It would be the same for Bush, just the opposite crowd doing it. Also, has anyone besides me noticed this is an English-language Russian news station interviewing random people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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