2016 Olympics Discussion

[BigSqwert]

Bah, I hope you're all wrong.

 

I don't want them.

I can already imagine what the montage footage of Chicago they'll add to the broadcasts. Wrigley field, deep dish pizza, Obama, Micheal Jordan and the skyline. That's all that Chicago is.

[NorthSideSox72]

J-Fed is merely a scapegoat, it's Daley they hate, he's been sinking their moral slowly over the years, it's merely come to a tipping point. One of Daley's biggest uphill battles on the Olympic bid will be explaining his skyrocketing murder/crime rate -- and a police force with absolutely zero moral. Giving them their contract at the last second and hiring additional officers after years of under staffing and f***ing them over when it comes to contract negotiations won't be forgotten even after he gives in. The police know the game he plays, and he will never have them on his side again.

You just aren't right on this. The addition of J-Fed was a huge blow, city cops hate the idea of Daley bringing in a Fed to run the department on multiple levels. And J-Fed has done some things to make that worse. I'm sure there is some Daley hate too, but its tempered, and not at nearly the level of disdain for Weis.

[NorthSideSox72]

I know from my standpoint, as a prospective police officer, I'm welcoming the Olympics to Chicago. I've heard two reliable sources suggest that Chicago will be offering exams for the first time in two years sometime around Fall. I'm sure it's Daley's way of assuring the committee members that his police department isn't in disarray despite internal problems involving lack of staffing, no contract, and poor morale under J-Fed.

 

It's strange, though. I feel completely confident Chicago will host the 2016 Olympics. I'm sure the people behind this city will devote all the available resources (both officially and not) to securing the bid.

Have you been using the IFPRA site yet? Great tool.

 

[RibbieRubarb]

Maybe an admin should either change the title of this thread (as it was a joke, btw) or merge it with another, real, Chicago 2016 thread.

 

 

[Y2HH]

You just aren't right on this. The addition of J-Fed was a huge blow, city cops hate the idea of Daley bringing in a Fed to run the department on multiple levels. And J-Fed has done some things to make that worse. I'm sure there is some Daley hate too, but its tempered, and not at nearly the level of disdain for Weis.

 

Coming from a family of police officers, they all disagree with you, but whatever.

 

They dislike Daley, they dislike Weis, they dislike the entire leadership team they both constructed. Police see Weis as Daley's scapegoat, but that's not to say they don't dislike Weis, too. And allow me to correct you, there isn't "some" Daley hate, there is "all the way" Daley hate on the police force.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Chicago is supposed to be being visited by the IOC today through next wednesday by the way.

[knightni]

Chicago is supposed to be being visited by the IOC today through next wednesday by the way.

Daley will bribe them with Sox tickets.

[NorthSideSox72]

Coming from a family of police officers, they all disagree with you, but whatever.

 

They dislike Daley, they dislike Weis, they dislike the entire leadership team they both constructed. Police see Weis as Daley's scapegoat, but that's not to say they don't dislike Weis, too. And allow me to correct you, there isn't "some" Daley hate, there is "all the way" Daley hate on the police force.

Well I certainly don't know the whole force, but the ones I have spoken with tend to rail on Weis, and I hear nothing about Daley. Could be because Weis is just a newer topic of discussion.

 

[SoxFan562004]

I rank them as this:

1) Rio

2) Chicago

3) Tokyo

4) Madrid

 

Madrid is last because of what you said. Tokyo is 3rd because they've hosted before, Rio is #1 because no games have ever been hosted in South America and I too have thought they want Rio to step up and prove they can do it. If not, it's in Chicago.

I heard that Rio is still having a ton of problems dealing with the kidnapping and other crime issues.

[Y2HH]

Well I certainly don't know the whole force, but the ones I have spoken with tend to rail on Weis, and I hear nothing about Daley. Could be because Weis is just a newer topic of discussion.

 

Ask them about Daley, too. Most police believe if Daley had his way they wouldn't even be able to carry guns anymore. But yes, Weis isn't their favorite guy, either. He came in without a clue as to how police departments even worked and started making nonsensical changes so it would look like he was fixing everything. I think what's important is we keep in mind it was Daley who choose Weis, and under his newest choices watch, crime has skyrocketed in Chicago, yet Daley hasn't done anything to reverse this trend. Of course, in the end, our untouchable/infallible Mayor *will* blame Weis...which is to be expected. I just hope people remember who put Weis where he is.

[Flash Tizzle]

Have you been using the IFPRA site yet? Great tool.

Honestly, I had never even heard of that organization before you mentioned it. Are you sure you were quoting the right person in the right thread? haha.

[Flash Tizzle]

Ask them about Daley, too. Most police believe if Daley had his way they wouldn't even be able to carry guns anymore. But yes, Weis isn't their favorite guy, either. He came in without a clue as to how police departments even worked and started making nonsensical changes so it would look like he was fixing everything. I think what's important is we keep in mind it was Daley who choose Weis, and under his newest choices watch, crime has skyrocketed in Chicago, yet Daley hasn't done anything to reverse this trend. Of course, in the end, our untouchable/infallible Mayor *will* blame Weis...which is to be expected. I just hope people remember who put Weis where he is.

I'm sure you've heard of the Second City Blog. http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

 

For anyone who hasn't, there is a section on the right side of the page under "problems facing the department." Take a look at that.

[Y2HH]

I'm sure you've heard of the Second City Blog. http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

 

For anyone who hasn't, there is a section on the right side of the page under "problems facing the department." Take a look at that.

 

Of course I've heard of that site...lol

[HuskyCaucasian]

Jay Cutler to chicago will help our chances.

 

"Welcome to Chicago, home of the 7 time back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back Super Bowl Champion Chicago Bears" would sure sound nice during the opening ceremonies.

[NorthSideSox72]

Honestly, I had never even heard of that organization before you mentioned it. Are you sure you were quoting the right person in the right thread? haha.

No, I was replying at you. But, I just checked, it looks like they went out of business. It was a website for police and fire recruiting, showed info on hiring/testing in the Chicago area, plus department data like salary, size, etc.

 

If you go to ifpra.com, it now forwards to this site, which may do the same thing.

 

[HuskyCaucasian]

What will Daley's 2016 Olympics bring to the suburbs?

Nearly half of Cook County’s residents are suburbanites who are treated like Cinderella by the mean old step-mother Mayor, Richard m. Daley.

 

In fact, if you actually correctly counted the population of Chicago, you would probably find that the census numbers are exaggerated. There are not 3 million citizens in Chicago. There are, maybe, 2.7 million.

 

The flight from Chicago started long ago and continues as people abandon Chicago fearing the rising crime, corruption and unstoppable taxation there.

 

A garbage can lid from one of the Democratic Machine Precinct Captains isn’t worth as much today as it was worth many years ago when it actually was the city’s symbol for real service delivery.

 

Chicago doesn’t deliver services any more. It delivers a bunch of exaggerated lies.

 

If the Census numbers in Chicago are stacked, as I suspect, in order to cover up the population hegira from corruption and taxation and crime, that means the population of the Cook County suburbs surrounding Kingdom Daley are actually higher than the 2.7 million and are probably over 3 million.

 

Yes. In fact, the population divide of Chicago and suburban Cook County is probably reversed with the suburbs burgeoning and the city fast wilting.

 

That means the suburbanites actually have the real clout. It’s Daley and his henchmen at City Hall, fueled by the millions in contract donations, corrupt favoritism, special airline flights, and wasteful government spending on their family, friends and cronies, who are the real minority in this region.

 

Daley doesn’t want the world to know that he has done a poor job when it comes to managing the city. Every day it’s a new corruption scandal. But the “buck” doesn’t stop at Daley’s desk. By the time it gets there, it’s only worth about 15 cents. Maybe.

 

Daley isn’t a great mayor, like his father, but he does know how to duck and dodge. He has the suburbanites convinced that they are worthless. And we just accept it.

 

So, when Daley brow beats the Illinois General Assembly into taking money meant to help the people and give it to his corruption government, they do it. They don’t know any better, either, because their boss is a Chicago Machine Captain, too.

 

Daley wants the region to pony up billions to back the 2016 Olympic Bid so that his name will reign forever, and so that his son, Patrick, will be crowned the next mayor.

 

And he doesn’t care that people in the suburbs will get NOTHING from the 2016 Olympics. Nothing except more taxation. More debt. More siphoning of suburban dollars through so-called lottery taxation for schools, casino taxation and more. Money for the crime-ridden CTA and the crime-ridden Chicago Loop.

 

They treat you like a second-class citizen when you try to visit the museums, which are funded by monies taken from the suburbs through the legislature, and a special non-resident tax and heaped upon our heads. And for what? The museums are falling apart and have more broken displays than Daley has scandals at City Hall.

 

Chicago is like a vampire sucking from the suburbs its money and will to survive.

 

But we have to stand up. And one way to do that is to break from Chicago’s control and divide Cook County into two counties, one to the East, Cook County that is drawn on the city’s borders. And a new county to the west called “Liberty County” or “Lincoln County.”

 

There is no Lincoln County in the state of Lincoln?

 

If ever we needed someone to lead us to emancipation from the oppression of Daley slavery, it is Lincoln County.

 

All we have to do in the suburbs of Cook County is stand up and take it.

 

--Ray Hanania

www.RadioChicagoland.com

:headbang

Edited April 3, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000

[BigSqwert]

Chicago is like a vampire sucking from the suburbs its money and will to survive.

 

Right. People from all over the world come to visit the suburbs to spend their money and avoid the city itself.

[Y2HH]

Right. People from all over the world come to visit the suburbs to spend their money and avoid the city itself.

 

Right. But what does that have to do with the suburbs? Oh, that's right, absolutely nothing. If people from all over the world were visiting the city and spending all of this money, why does the city need to suck even more money out of the suburban areas surrounding it?! It doesn't add up to anything more than corruption.

 

My complaint from the beginning of this is again, spending money we don't have, running deficits we cannot afford and running up debt that someone else will undoubtedly have to repay.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Right. But what does that have to do with the suburbs? Oh, that's right, absolutely nothing. If people from all over the world were visiting the city and spending all of this money, why does the city need to suck even more money out of the suburban areas surrounding it?! It doesn't add up to anything more than corruption.

 

My complaint from the beginning of this is again, spending money we don't have, running deficits we cannot afford and running up debt that someone else will undoubtedly have to repay.

I think the point the author was trying to make was that Chicago uses the affluent suburbs to fund it's pet projects and corruption.

[southsider2k5]

Right. People from all over the world come to visit the suburbs to spend their money and avoid the city itself.

 

And I am sure none of those suburbanites commute downtown on a daily basis for jobs to take money out of the city, right? The burbs don't exist without Chicago.

[NorthSideSox72]

What will Daley's 2016 Olympics bring to the suburbs?

 

:headbang

That writer apparently never left the year 1985. The urban flight stopped in the 80's, the city has been growing since then, and in fact the city has undergone one of the great urban renewals in recent history. His entire lead in is garbage.

 

Regardless of the Olympics point, this guy really is clueless as to reality.

 

[lostfan]

That writer apparently never left the year 1985. The urban flight stopped in the 80's, the city has been growing since then, and in fact the city has undergone one of the great urban renewals in recent history. His entire lead in is garbage.

 

Regardless of the Olympics point, this guy really is clueless as to reality.

Right, my thoughts exactly. The population trend is the exact reverse of what he says, people are moving back INTO the city, not out.

[Y2HH]

Right, my thoughts exactly. The population trend is the exact reverse of what he says, people are moving back INTO the city, not out.

 

Yes, because they realized how stupid they were being. Driving 2 hours each way, spending time/gas money and having the new found necessity of owning a working car 365 days a year didn't add up to anything but less time with your family/loved ones and more expenses for a bigger home which you were never at.

[Y2HH]

I think the point the author was trying to make was that Chicago uses the affluent suburbs to fund it's pet projects and corruption.

 

No, I get this, I was being sarcastic about what the person before me said. And I understand that the suburbs wouldn't exist without the City, but we call that growth and expansion, it's a natural thing.

[lostfan]

Yes, because they realized how stupid they were being. Driving 2 hours each way, spending time/gas money and having the new found necessity of owning a working car 365 days a year didn't add up to anything but less time with your family/loved ones and more expenses for a bigger home which you were never at.

lol. Exactly. Commuting is a b****.