Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Well, Urlacher was interviewed on ESPN Radio today and was nothing but giddy about the acquisition. He went as far as to break his media silence just to talk about how happy he is to have Cutler in town, and that he doesn't blame him for wanting out, because he was treated poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:09 PM) Well, Urlacher was interviewed on ESPN Radio today and was nothing but giddy about the acquisition. He went as far as to break his media silence just to talk about how happy he is to have Cutler in town, and that he doesn't blame him for wanting out, because he was treated poorly. sucks for the espn spin department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think Urlacher was just going out of his way to not look like he was trashing Orton. Orton was a captain and a good teammate so sometime you just need time to adjust to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 damn people are fast. http://cgi.ebay.com/Jay-Cutler-Signed-Chic...%3A1|240%3A1318 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 I bet there's a lot of dorks with the masking tape out changing their BUTLER #6 jersies right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 08:35 AM) Cutler 2008: 8 games of 300+ yards passing Bears Franchise Single Season Record: 4 games of 300+ yards passing IMMEDIATELY THE BEST QB IN FRANCHISE HISTORY... 25 year old Pro Bowl Quarterbacks just don't come available. For a team that has stockpiled picks for this year, it was perfect. And Carl, let's be real. You said the Broncos won the trade, which is just blatantly incorrect. The Denver Broncos got fair value for Cutler, sure, but they did not win this trade. Trading a 25 year old guy of Cutler's calibre is idiotic. Ask them how Jake "The Snake" was working out, or Brian Griese for that matter. The Broncos have been spoiled at the position with Elway, and then got Cutler and thought it was easy. Enjoy Orton, or Sanchez, or whatever bust you're going to pick. Not many make it and to assume that you'll easily plug the hole is laughable. Big win for the Bears, as they finally solved a problem that has haunted them for 60 years. Sorry, Broncos won that deal. And I know you got your Bears glasses on right now, but take em off and maybe you'll see Griese and Plummer both had some very good seasons with the Broncos. The Bears mortgaged their future for a guy who is 17-20 as a starter and has never had a winning season. If you guys wanna keep ignoring what I have been saying about this I can easily turn this into a why this was a terrible deal for the Bears and how they are now f***ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 02:22 PM) The Bears mortgaged their future for a guy who is 17-20 as a starter and has never had a winning season. If you guys wanna keep ignoring what I have been saying about this I can easily turn this into a why this was a terrible deal for the Bears and how they are now f***ed. Dude, you cannot convince me they mortgaged their future by acquiring a soon to be 26 year old All-Pro quarterback. So we can't blow our first rounder on a Cedric Benson this year, big whoop, we've still got our 2nd, we've still got a 3rd, and we have an extra fifth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Wow, listening to Trent Dilfer, you'd think the Broncos not only made a haul witt the draft picks, but acquired the better QB as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) Sorry, Broncos won that deal. And I know you got your Bears glasses on right now, but take em off and maybe you'll see Griese and Plummer both had some very good seasons with the Broncos. The Bears mortgaged their future for a guy who is 17-20 as a starter and has never had a winning season. If you guys wanna keep ignoring what I have been saying about this I can easily turn this into a why this was a terrible deal for the Bears and how they are now f***ed. The Bears have had s***ty results in the 1st round draft for about 20 years now. Yet, I like the position the franchise is in. I don't think 2 1st round draft picks that we would have blown anyway are going to make our break us. Read Daa84's posts the last few pages to see what value we really gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 12:54 PM) Probably not, but when you get a QB like Cutler, you got to surround him with guys and the Bears lost a couple picks and I believe FS has now become there #1 need. The Bears also still have a good group of vets that I think would keep a guy like Jones in line. Than again, the WR corps is very young so maybe it would be bad to put a guy like Jones around Hester/Bennett. Clearly Jones is the better long-term solution over Holt, but Holt is the steady veteran that could really be the glue. Jones was on pace for 1000 yards, is an elite athlete for a guy his size and seemed to be really finally come close to his potential and would be a badass target along with Olsen in the red zone (combine Olsen/Jones and Forte and you are talking about a ridiculous red zone offense, imo). After Tank Johnson, there is no way Angelo signs Matt Jones. No way. Some other team my give him another chance, but Jerry isn't going to take the chance to get burned again like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 01:27 PM) Dude, you cannot convince me they mortgaged their future by acquiring a soon to be 26 year old All-Pro quarterback. So we can't blow our first rounder on a Cedric Benson this year, big whoop, we've still got our 2nd, we've still got a 3rd, and we have an extra fifth. Ok, I understand the Bears have not been good drafters in the first round but that still doesn't mean you can dismiss two first round picks like they don't mean anything when they are probably the most valued commodities in the NFL. Also, I would just like to point out that Jay Cutler is NOT an all pro, that was Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. He was voted to the pro bowl, much like Brett Favre was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Plaxico was just released. Comes with a lot of baggage, but would you see him as a fit here? It's no question the Bears need to add a top WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Plaxico was just released. Comes with a lot of baggage, but would you see him as a fit here? It's no question the Bears need to add a top WR. DO it JA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 01:29 PM) The Bears have had s***ty results in the 1st round draft for about 20 years now. Yet, I like the position the franchise is in. I don't think 2 1st round draft picks that we would have blown anyway are going to make our break us. Read Daa84's posts the last few pages to see what value we really gave up. NO! I will not read his post again because it makes NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER You can NOT use the draft value chart when talking about trading for proven commodities. That is completely pointless. Yes I understand the Giants paid more for Eli Manning, that's because that's how its done when you move up in the draft, you follow that chart. When Detroit traded Roy Williams I doubt they looked at their chart and told Dallas they needed to put together a package that exceeded 4,000 in value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) Ok, I understand the Bears have not been good drafters in the first round but that still doesn't mean you can dismiss two first round picks like they don't mean anything when they are probably the most valued commodities in the NFL. Also, I would just like to point out that Jay Cutler is NOT an all pro, that was Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. He was voted to the pro bowl, much like Brett Favre was. I think they overpaid, but they had to. Cutler is the best QB they have had in a long time. I know he wouldn't have put up the numbers he put up in Denver if he were playing for the Bears in 2008. He's going to need another receiver or 2. He's going to need Pace to stay healthy. He's going to need Williams to make a transition to RT and stay healthy, but there is no doubt the QB position has been upgraded, and considering his age, if he stays healthy, there is no need to upgrade it again for many, many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:31 PM) After Tank Johnson, there is no way Angelo signs Matt Jones. No way. Some other team my give him another chance, but Jerry isn't going to take the chance to get burned again like that. I dunno, Angelo drafted Marcus Harrison when he fell to him last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 02:35 PM) Plaxico was just released. Comes with a lot of baggage, but would you see him as a fit here? It's no question the Bears need to add a top WR. Plaxico is going to jail. Do people remember Tank Johnson? He's probably the biggest reason Angelo will not take on the baggage for Burress or Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 12:35 PM) Plaxico was just released. Comes with a lot of baggage, but would you see him as a fit here? It's no question the Bears need to add a top WR. Plax will probably be in jail this year if the Giants are releasing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:29 PM) Wow, listening to Trent Dilfer, you'd think the Broncos not only made a haul witt the draft picks, but acquired the better QB as well. Call me crazy to say that Kyle Orton could actually put up better numbers than Jay Cutler this upcoming season. And I'm basing that on; 1 - McDaniels will be a better offensive coach than Ron Turner 2 - The Broncos probably still have the better offensive line. 3 - The Broncos have better WR's. Cutler's a better QB no doubt, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him initally struggle a little learning a brand new scheme (although you could say the same for Orton also). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm going to refrain from further commenting because this could get into a political debate fast. but... JA, DO IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 02:22 PM) Sorry, Broncos won that deal. And I know you got your Bears glasses on right now, but take em off and maybe you'll see Griese and Plummer both had some very good seasons with the Broncos. The Bears mortgaged their future for a guy who is 17-20 as a starter and has never had a winning season. If you guys wanna keep ignoring what I have been saying about this I can easily turn this into a why this was a terrible deal for the Bears and how they are now f***ed. Cutler was also 13-1 when the other team was held to 21 or less points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Why does one team have to win a trade? It seems to me that the Bears got something they haven't had in my life time and the Broncos recieved good compensation for it. It's way to early to decide if it was a good trade, but both teams appear to have improved their positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 12:53 PM) Why does one team have to win a trade? It seems to me that the Bears got something they haven't had in my life time and the Broncos recieved good compensation for it. It's way to early to decide if it was a good trade, but both teams appear to have improved their positions. Who won the Scott Podsednik and Luiz Vizcaino for Carlos Lee trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) Who won the Scott Podsednik and Luiz Vizcaino for Carlos Lee trade? Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 12:56 PM) Bingo I do not believe that any team named bingo was involved in that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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