Linnwood Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Twins' Crede cool under pressure at hot corner Joe Crede has a track record of success, and the Twins believe he can be the third baseman they have long sought. By LA VELLE E. NEAL III, Star Tribune Last update: April 2, 2009 - 10:08 PM Joe Crede moves quietly through the Twins clubhouse. While teammates banter at a nearby table before spring training games, Crede -- when he's not in a batting cage working on his swing -- sits in front of his stall, often working through a crossword puzzle. "He's a little quiet, I guess," said catcher Joe Mauer, who knows a thing or two about quiet. Anyone who wants Crede to react to something should mention University of Missouri basketball and the possibility that coach Mike Anderson might take a job elsewhere. Then Crede, a big Mizzou fan, will look exasperated. Other than that, don't expect a lot out of Crede, who is very polite but just not the loquacious sort. And that's fine with the Twins, as long as he stays healthy and solves their problem at third base, a problem that has plagued them ever since Corey Koskie left following the 2004 season. In the spring trainings since then, the Twins have tried a prospect there (Michael Cuddyer in 2005), brought someone in from Japan (Tony Batista in 2006), used a middle infielder (Nick Punto in 2007) and given a career part-time player a chance (Mike Lamb in 2008) -- and they have been disappointed each time. "I think [Crede] is the type of player we have tried to get the past few years," Mauer said, "but I like the way our team looks, especially with him at third." • • • The Twins view Crede, 30, as the missing piece to their third base problem -- even though he has been held to 144 games over the past two seasons because of a herniated disk in his back that has required two surgeries. It's because of his back concerns that the Twins were able to sign Crede to a $2.5 million contract with incentives that could push it to $7 million. They envision him producing like he did from 2003 to '06, when he belted 92 homers and played a slick third base. He could provide balance in a lineup in which lefthanded hitters Mauer, Justin Morneau and Jason Kubel were the most productive last season. And he has been where the Twins want to be -- a World Series champion like he was in 2005 with the White Sox. Crede looked sheepish when asked about possibly meaning as much to the Twins this year as Dan Gladden did in 1987 and Jack Morris did in 1991. "As far as whether or not signing me was going to be the big deciding factor where they would win the World Series or not, I would not put it that far," he said. "I just think it's a matter of being able to go here and being able to fit right in and doing whatever a team needs me to do to help them have a great season." If the move works out, the Twins will get third base production that the rival White Sox might not be able to match. Crede gets 18 games to make his former team pay for not bringing him back. And if the Twins do reach the playoffs, they have someone in Crede who not only won a World Series but also hit .289 with four homers and 11 RBI in 12 postseason games and was excellent in the field. Instead of feeling overwhelmed, Crede thrived in big games, and the Twins could use that experience. "I don't want to take anything away from that team. It was a very special year," Crede said of the 2005 White Sox. "This team has a chance to do something special here with all the young talent here. They have a lot of hungry guys who want to go out and do well, and it will be interesting to see how things play out." Twins reliever Matt Guerrier, a former White Sox farmhand who played with Crede briefly in 2000 at Class AA Charlotte and 2001 at Class AAA Birmingham, knows Crede won't have a hard time adjusting to his new teammates. "I think he fits in well with what we have going on here," Guerrier said. "We've got to feel him out, and it will be good. The most important thing is that we have pretty good guys in the clubhouse." With Chicago, Crede became one of the thorns in the Twins' side through the years, batting .273 with 19 homers and 59 RBI in his career against them. He was particularly devastating last year, hitting .400 with seven homers and 17 RBI in only 11 games against the Twins -- including a broken bat grand slam off Pat Neshek on April 7. But after getting named to his first American League All-Star team, Crede saw his 2008 season deteriorate after the break, when back pain sent him to the disabled list. On Tuesday, he admitted he first felt pain in spring training that year but fought through it as long as he could. A career-high 20 errors gave away his discomfort. He returned in late August for seven games but was done for the year after diving for ball and feeling more pain than he could handle. He had offseason surgery in Dallas -- bad timing for someone headed to free agency. He claimed he was healthy and ready to play, but many teams backed off. The Twins landed Crede for a deal that includes plenty of bonuses the more he is on the field. If he is healthy, the Twins are confident he will produce like most quality third basemen. "Everything has been great this spring so far with my back, staying loose," Crede said. "It really hasn't affected me in any way. as far as defense or even offensively. I can't wait for the start of the season." Crede is batting only .167 with one homer and five RBI in Grapefruit League play but is satisfied with his swing. Scouts at Twins games this spring have wondered about Crede's range at third, but the Twins just want him to make plays on the balls he gets to. Manager Ron Gardenhire marveled at a stop Crede made during a March 20 game against the Yankees. "It's an amazing thing to see a ball hit like that and go into his glove like it was a pillow," Gardenhire said. "Then to see him flip it so easily to second base to start a double play, that never gets old." The Twins just hope Crede stays on the field and plays as well for them as he did against them; he doesn't have to dance around the clubhouse, like Carlos Gomez does at times. "He's going to be a big part of this lineup," catcher Mike Redmond said. "We know what type of player he is and he's going to thrive because Gardy lets guys play and lets guys go out there and have fun and do what they do. "I think he's going to really enjoy playing with this group of guys, how much fun we have and how much we want to win." http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/42361647.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I love Joe and I hope he does well. I just wonder how his back will hold up playing on carpeted concrete all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (RibbieRubarb @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 09:18 AM) I love Joe and I hope he does well. I just wonder how his back will hold up playing on carpeted concrete all season. I will forever remember Joe, and I thank him for his contributions as a White Sox player and a 2005 hero. That said, Crede can go f*** himself, I hope he does terrible from here on out, he's now the enemy. I don't know why any Sox fan would hope he does well, as that would help our nemesis do well. f*** Crede and f*** the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnwood Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (RibbieRubarb @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 09:18 AM) I love Joe and I hope he does well. I just wonder how his back will hold up playing on carpeted concrete all season. Yeah, I am a big fan of Joe. But I just don't see him doing well in the Metrodome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Linnwood @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) Yeah, I am a big fan of Joe. But I just don't see him doing well in the Metrodome. fields can outperform him easily(offensivley) so whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Crede is hitting .167 this spring and scouts say he isn't moving well, yet there is optimism. Rowand is hitting .190 and many scouts feel he is near done. (Maybe yet another bullet KW dodged when the Giants went to 5 years) Of course they said the same about him in the spring of 2007. Edited April 3, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 10:41 AM) Crede is hitting .167 this spring and scouts say he isn't moving well, yet there is optimism. Rowand is hitting .190 and many scouts feel he is near done. (Maybe yet another bullet KW dodged when the Giants went to 5 years) Of course they said the same about him in the spring of 2007. i know rowand is 10x better than what we have and id like to have him on the sox but im glad they gave him 5 years. he simply isnt worth 12mil a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 They can ENVISION all they want. I can envision supermodels giving me blowjobs all day long, ain't gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) That said, Crede can go f*** himself, I hope he does terrible from here on out, he's now the enemy. I don't know why any Sox fan would hope he does well, as that would help our nemesis do well. f*** Crede and f*** the Twins. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) Wow. Heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I love Crede because he was a big part of '05, but he's a huge risk and I want to see how his back holds up on concrete for 81 games. Also, if he's any good this year the Twins better not fall in love with him because Boras will get him a high $ contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) Wow. I agree with everything he said. I'd stand a cheer for the guy in his first plate appearance back at USCF (which I obviously won't be at), but I don't wish him success, atleast not in Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 He should be pretty cool when he's resting on the DL about 2 months into the season after hitting about .220. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'd root for Crede the Cub before Crede the Twin. There is no way I can root for him to succeed now. Maybe late in the game with the Twins down 9-0 I'll root for him. That is the extent of it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) I will forever remember Joe, and I thank him for his contributions as a White Sox player and a 2005 hero. That said, Crede can go f*** himself, I hope he does terrible from here on out, he's now the enemy. I don't know why any Sox fan would hope he does well, as that would help our nemesis do well. f*** Crede and f*** the Twins. We need more posts like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 *tear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Harris will be starting at 3B by June, not because of injury to Crede, just because he'll be playing better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I will forever remember Joe, and I thank him for his contributions as a White Sox player and a 2005 hero. That said, Crede can go f*** himself, I hope he does terrible from here on out, he's now the enemy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I don't know why any Sox fan would hope he does well, as that would help our nemesis do well. f*** Crede and f*** the Twins. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Let's just say I disagree with this. I hope he does very well but does nothing to beat us in the 18 f***ing games we have to face him. I agree he picked the wrong team cause of the carpet. Hope our pitchers know how to get him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 6, 2009 -> 02:27 AM) Let's just say I disagree with this. I hope he does very well but does nothing to beat us in the 18 f***ing games we have to face him. I agree he picked the wrong team cause of the carpet. Hope our pitchers know how to get him out. How about if he contributes to victories in other games and the Twins beat the Sox by one for the division? He has surely f***ed us then just as much, just not in direct action. f*** Joe. I wish him no injuries or such, but I would be just as happy if he was batting .210 and riding the bench for the Twins. I hope he sucks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 How about if he contributes to victories in other games and the Twins beat the Sox by one for the division? He has surely f***ed us then just as much, just not in direct action. f*** Joe. I wish him no injuries or such, but I would be just as happy if he was batting .210 and riding the bench for the Twins. I hope he sucks now. Fair enough point, but I still want him to do well and I want us to win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 6, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) Fair enough point, but I still want him to do well and I want us to win the division. Bah, I don't give a s*** about Joe Crede.. Thanks for 2005, but you aren't a member of the White Sox and that's were my loyalty lies. I could care less what other players do when they move on, I am a fan of the White Sox not a former White Sox player on another team, especially a rival team. I hope Joe sucks it up to be quite honest. Whatever helps the Twins be bad this season, im all for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 12:05 AM) Bah, I don't give a s*** about Joe Crede.. Thanks for 2005, but you aren't a member of the White Sox and that's were my loyalty lies. I could care less what other players do when they move on, I am a fan of the White Sox not a former White Sox player on another team, especially a rival team. I hope Joe sucks it up to be quite honest. Whatever helps the Twins be bad this season, im all for. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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