StrangeSox Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 03:36 PM) Why did the Colts barely beat the bad Jaguars 14-12? Why did the Colts need a last second TD pass to beat a mediocre Miami team? It's the NFL, using margin of victory as a debating point is ridiculous. The Vikings are 6-0, the best team in the NFC North, and that's just how it is. The Bears are still in great shape to make the playoffs if they win tonight and that's fine. The Vikings are a better team than the Bears. That's not my argument. TRU's just using special pleading in all of his arguments -- what counts for the Vikings doesn't count for the Saints and what counts against the Saints doesn't count against the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 02:44 PM) TRU's just using special pleading in all of his arguments -- what counts for the Vikings doesn't count for the Saints and what counts against the Saints doesn't count against the Vikings. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 You said there was nothing that could convince you that the saints were better than the vikings. Last year the cards made it to the SB with an avg-to-bad running game. The Steelers had a really bad running game but a great D. It doesn't matter. The saints O is dynamic and even if struggling is still perpetually capable of turning it around on a drive. Meanwhile their D has showed up. I thought that the giants would tear their s*** up. They did to a degree. But when you are up by 4 tds pass defense gaps happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 02:45 PM) You said there was nothing that could convince you that the saints were better than the vikings. Thats right, there is nothing. As of right now there is nothing that could convince me the Saints have a better team than the Vikings. Favre is producing just as much as Brees is, the difference is the have Adrian Peterson on their team along with a better D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I think the Saints are better than the Vikings right now. But the Vikings don't need to be better than the Saints until January, they just need to be better than the Bears and Packers right now, and they clearly are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) Yes, but what would sports be without pointless arguments over subjective rankings? I love watching sloppy games in the snow. Edited October 18, 2009 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Some things should be based off of performance, though, and not just hunches that the vikes D is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Now guys, your penis's are equally small... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (T R U @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 02:48 PM) Thats right, there is nothing. As of right now there is nothing that could convince me the Saints have a better team than the Vikings. Favre is producing just as much as Brees is, the difference is the have Adrian Peterson on their team along with a better D. I get the feeling that if the Saints beat the Vikings by 3 touchdowns in the Metrodome that you still wouldn't believe they were better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 03:53 PM) Now guys, your penis's are equally small... The testosterone level is killing my senses. I need to step out for a minute. Hopefully the Bears can win tonight on my B-Day though. I need it after drinking my ass off this weekend and putting up a .29 alcohol level. Take that Miggy Cabrera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Some things should be based off of performance, though, and not just hunches that the vikes D is better. hey now, thats not fair, cmon who wants to use facts here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 03:56 PM) The testosterone level is killing my senses. I need to step out for a minute. Hopefully the Bears can win tonight on my B-Day though. I need it after drinking my ass off this weekend and putting up a .29 alcohol level. Take that Miggy Cabrera Yeah, but could you go 0-11 against the Sox pitching after doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 02:53 PM) Adams has not been a huge bust. If he's a huge bust, what do you call Ryan Leaf? Adams has been productive but not as much as they would've hoped. He had 13.5 sacks in 29 starts, which isn't a bust. Ryan Leaf is THE bust and 13.5 sacks in 29 starts is a bust as the 4th overall pick. Im not saying he wont be good or I hate the trade, I was pointing out that there wasnt a chance in hell Ogun is the worst of the 4 defensive ends. So unless you are saying Adams is better than Ogun your argument is irrelevant in the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 04:08 PM) Yeah, but could you go 0-11 against the Sox pitching after doing it? The way I hit a baseball now-a-days... is it even a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 The Titans are such a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 10:12 PM) Ryan Leaf is THE bust and 13.5 sacks in 29 starts is a bust as the 4th overall pick. Im not saying he wont be good or I hate the trade, I was pointing out that there wasnt a chance in hell Ogun is the worst of the 4 defensive ends. So unless you are saying Adams is better than Ogun your argument is irrelevant in the context. He's clearly a project, and IMO the bucs got pretty good value for him. But, I'm going to hope they are right about this kid. A force at DE will be very helpful to our secondary. The turnovers haven't come like they did in 04-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 04:17 PM) He's clearly a project, and IMO the bucs got pretty good value for him. But, I'm going to hope they are right about this kid. A force at DE will be very helpful to our secondary. The turnovers haven't come like they did in 04-06 I agree. I like the trade. A speed rusher is something weve been lacking since the disappearance of Mark Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 04:16 PM) The Titans are such a joke. They're looking GOD AWFUL. I may just do homework until the Bears game/NLCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) This is a very boring game. 5 TD's in one half is pretty funny, though. Edited October 18, 2009 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I would love to see the Patriots keep the starters in the game just to see how ridiculous the score would get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I wonder what the halftime line will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 04:55 PM) I would love to see the Patriots keep the starters in the game just to see how ridiculous the score would get. It wouldn't be Bill Belichick if that doesn't happen. BTW, Tom Brady has 6 TD passes, and it's snowing....... Edited October 18, 2009 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 05:15 PM) It wouldn't be Bill Belichick if that doesn't happen. BTW, Tom Brady has 6 TD passes, and it's snowing....... I would love to see an NFL team win 84-0 or something similar. And I have no problem running up the score in the pros. The other players are paying paid to stop you, if they can't F them. I'm guessing the NE starters are probably done now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 03:24 PM) I would love to see an NFL team win 84-0 or something similar. And I have no problem running up the score in the pros. The other players are paying paid to stop you, if they can't F them. I'm guessing the NE starters are probably done now though. And I'd love to see Brady throw that 9th touchdown and then have someone roll in to his knee again. Because that's exactly what a team doing that would deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2009 -> 05:28 PM) And I'd love to see Brady throw that 9th touchdown and then have someone roll in to his knee again. Because that's exactly what a team doing that would deserve. Never really understood the argument that a team "running up the score" in the pros deserves to have a player get injured. Do your f***ing job and stop them from scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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