witesoxfan Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 That was a terrible officiating crew in the Packers-Cards game. There was atleast one horse collar penalty that should not have been called - you can grab someone by the collar, but you can't tackle them from the collar. If that's not how the rule is interpreted, then it's more ticky-tacky than roughing the passer. And there was also a defensive holding call against Michael Adams late in the game that I didn't think even happened. He had his arm in front of him, and arm behind him, and the receiver - I think it was Driver - had full range of motion to do what he wanted and Adams was just playing him tight. Adams knocked the ball away at the exact right moment, and it looked like a clean play. Maybe I need to see a replay to actually see a hold, but I didn't see anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 07:25 PM) As (I think) being the lone USC fan here, I will say that obviously I'm disappointed. I love Pete. I love everything he has done for that program. He's a great guy and very well liked by the SC fans. Then again, I can't blame him. IIRC, he just got a $3m per year raise, and he's going to a new challenge. What more can he accomplish at USC? From 2001 until now, he's won 97 games, 7 P10 titles, 1 BCS national title, has had 2 Heisman winners, and has went 7-2 in bowl games. I hope he succeeds like hell up in Seattle. I think it was three Heismans (Palmer, Leinart and Bush). I hope he succeeds in Seattle too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 07:25 PM) As (I think) being the lone USC fan here, I will say that obviously I'm disappointed. I love Pete. I love everything he has done for that program. He's a great guy and very well liked by the SC fans. Then again, I can't blame him. IIRC, he just got a $3m per year raise, and he's going to a new challenge. What more can he accomplish at USC? From 2001 until now, he's won 97 games, 7 P10 titles, 1 BCS national title, has had 2 Heisman winners, and has went 7-2 in bowl games. I hope he succeeds like hell up in Seattle. Are you going to say that when the NCAA brings down the disciplinary hammer and you realize that Carroll jumped ship so he wouldnt be affected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 05:28 PM) The Packers would win if they played again. The Cardinals have been up and down this year. At times they look like a really good team and other weeks they look terrible. Vintage Warner showed up Sunday and played a hell of a game, odds are he can't do it two times in a row, so I'd like to think the Pack would win the next matchup. It was nice reading about the praise the Cardinals secondary was giving Rodgers, not a bad first playoff game, just began and ended on a sour note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) I think it was three Heismans (Palmer, Leinart and Bush). I hope he succeeds in Seattle too... Meant 3, typed 2. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 10:45 PM) Are you going to say that when the NCAA brings down the disciplinary hammer and you realize that Carroll jumped ship so he wouldnt be affected? Yeah, your right. Resurrecting that program meant nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) Yeah, your right. Resurrecting that program meant nothing. at what cost Brian. What if the NCAA tells USC to vacate a portion of those victories? The bowls, the championships, the accolades. Then you have a probation period in which USC isnt bowl eligible and the recruiting goes into the toilet and you end up right back to where you started. Then what will you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 07:25 PM) As (I think) being the lone USC fan here, I will say that obviously I'm disappointed. I love Pete. I love everything he has done for that program. He's a great guy and very well liked by the SC fans. Then again, I can't blame him. IIRC, he just got a $3m per year raise, and he's going to a new challenge. What more can he accomplish at USC? From 2001 until now, he's won 97 games, 7 P10 titles, 1 BCS national title, has had 2 Heisman winners, and has went 7-2 in bowl games. I hope he succeeds like hell up in Seattle. LOL. Just because you're a "fan" doesn't mean you have to be so blind. First, he's leaving because the hammer is about to drop at USC due to his and the school's shenanigans, not because there isn't any more to accomplish at USC. He had it made there and doesn't really need a little extra money. If he wanted a raise he would have left a long time ago. He's also done the NFL thing before, so this isn't really a completely new challenge. He became a stud at USC not because of his X's and O's, but his recruiting. You don't recruit in the NFL. It will be much harder for him to have success in the NFL with much of it being out of his hands. He might be jumping off USC before it really starts heading south. In which case, smart career move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 08:29 PM) That was a terrible officiating crew in the Packers-Cards game. There was atleast one horse collar penalty that should not have been called - you can grab someone by the collar, but you can't tackle them from the collar. If that's not how the rule is interpreted, then it's more ticky-tacky than roughing the passer. And there was also a defensive holding call against Michael Adams late in the game that I didn't think even happened. He had his arm in front of him, and arm behind him, and the receiver - I think it was Driver - had full range of motion to do what he wanted and Adams was just playing him tight. Adams knocked the ball away at the exact right moment, and it looked like a clean play. Maybe I need to see a replay to actually see a hold, but I didn't see anything. Couldn't agree more. The horse-collar penalty is already one that is being botched on a regular basis. Adams was being picked-on not only by Aaron Rogers and the Packers, but the refs as well. At some point you have to let the kid play the game without throwing a flag by default simply because they didn't complete the pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 12:57 AM) Couldn't agree more. The horse-collar penalty is already one that is being botched on a regular basis. Adams was being picked-on not only by Aaron Rogers and the Packers, but the refs as well. At some point you have to let the kid play the game without throwing a flag by default simply because they didn't complete the pass... Seriously, Adams didn't have a good game, but there's only so much you can do when you are being hit from both sides. It's sweet karma that he forced the game ending fumble. The Cardinals the past two postseasons have been absolutely money. If not for the last drive last year, this team would have won 5 straight postseason games. Gotta play better defense against the Saints though (which I think they actually will do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 The roster's not setup for Carroll to have any instant success in Seattle anyways. They're a complete mess on the offensive line, so they need to upgrade there. Looks like they'll be drafting a QB with one of their 2 1st rounders and getting Jeremy Bates to mould him as he did ala Jay Cutler. So they'll probably release Hasselback (he could resurface in Cleveland under Holmgren perhaps). They should use the other pick on an offensive tackle. They also need an upgrade at RB, and probably on the defensive line as well. The former GM spent too much $$$ on WR's (such as Branch and Houshmanzadh) and on LB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 01:19 AM) The roster's not setup for Carroll to have any instant success in Seattle anyways. They're a complete mess on the offensive line, so they need to upgrade there. Looks like they'll be drafting a QB with one of their 2 1st rounders and getting Jeremy Bates to mould him as he did ala Jay Cutler. So they'll probably release Hasselback (he could resurface in Cleveland under Holmgren perhaps). They should use the other pick on an offensive tackle. They also need an upgrade at RB, and probably on the defensive line as well. The former GM spent too much $$$ on WR's (such as Branch and Houshmanzadh) and on LB's. I like Forsett, I think they are fine with him at the lead back and Julius Jones backing him up. Seneca Wallace also needs to be utilized in a wildcat package more, I like what he can bring to their offense. No QB they select in round 1 is going to help them, their best bet is to go with 2/3 of Okung, Trent Williams and Anthony Davis. Then they can taking someone like Chad Jones in the 3rd round or if they want to, Mays or maybe Berry in the 1st. They have some options with those two first round picks, which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Charles Woodson wins defensive player of year; Darrelle Revis finishes second ESPN link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I could sit here and explain it to you, but I'll just refer to the head story on Sporting News today. If you don't want to read it, here's the summary- USC will be fine. It's a love/hate thing. We can argue all day long. Obviously, I'm biased because I'm hoping everything is fine. Evidently, you think the NCAA is going to end everything SC has done. Which is fine, but we have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 07:25 PM) As (I think) being the lone USC fan here, I will say that obviously I'm disappointed. I love Pete. I love everything he has done for that program. He's a great guy and very well liked by the SC fans. Then again, I can't blame him. IIRC, he just got a $3m per year raise, and he's going to a new challenge. What more can he accomplish at USC? From 2001 until now, he's won 97 games, 7 P10 titles, 1 BCS national title, has had 2 Heisman winners, and has went 7-2 in bowl games. I hope he succeeds like hell up in Seattle. And cheated like hell to do it. It goes up on the shelf with Bonds 73 homers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 09:35 AM) And cheated like hell to do it. It goes up on the shelf with Bonds 73 homers. Well his cheating will be severely restricted in the NFL. Time to see what kind of coach he really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (ChWRoCk2 @ Jan 11, 2010 -> 10:09 PM) The Cardinals have been up and down this year. At times they look like a really good team and other weeks they look terrible. Vintage Warner showed up Sunday and played a hell of a game, odds are he can't do it two times in a row, so I'd like to think the Pack would win the next matchup. It was nice reading about the praise the Cardinals secondary was giving Rodgers, not a bad first playoff game, just began and ended on a sour note. I meant playing the Vikings again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 01:19 AM) The roster's not setup for Carroll to have any instant success in Seattle anyways. They're a complete mess on the offensive line, so they need to upgrade there. Looks like they'll be drafting a QB with one of their 2 1st rounders and getting Jeremy Bates to mould him as he did ala Jay Cutler. So they'll probably release Hasselback (he could resurface in Cleveland under Holmgren perhaps). They should use the other pick on an offensive tackle. They also need an upgrade at RB, and probably on the defensive line as well. The former GM spent too much $$$ on WR's (such as Branch and Houshmanzadh) and on LB's. As long as they don't draft Jimmy Clausen, I'll be happy. Hasselbeck will stay around, Forsett's good, but you're right about everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 10:43 AM) Well his cheating will be severely restricted in the NFL. Time to see what kind of coach he really is Yup. I can't think of a single NFL coach who's won multiple championships and then later been proven to be breaking the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 07:31 AM) I could sit here and explain it to you, but I'll just refer to the head story on Sporting News today. If you don't want to read it, here's the summary- USC will be fine. It's a love/hate thing. We can argue all day long. Obviously, I'm biased because I'm hoping everything is fine. Evidently, you think the NCAA is going to end everything SC has done. Which is fine, but we have to wait and see. I was chatting with my buddy on Saturday (while playing bball) who works in the USC athletic department. He told me that prior to accepting the bowl game for this season (against BC) USC offered the NCAA a 5 year post-season ban (which would have started this year) and a loss of scholarships. That tells me something bad is about to go down. Now maybe the NCAA turned it down because it was too large of an offer but either way making that sort of offer to the NCAA says all I need to know. You keep living in make believe world Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 11:21 AM) I was chatting with my buddy on Saturday (while playing bball) who works in the USC athletic department. He told me that prior to accepting the bowl game for this season (against BC) USC offered the NCAA a 5 year post-season ban (which would have started this year) and a loss of scholarships. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 11:21 AM) I was chatting with my buddy on Saturday (while playing bball) who works in the USC athletic department. He told me that prior to accepting the bowl game for this season (against BC) USC offered the NCAA a 5 year post-season ban (which would have started this year) and a loss of scholarships. That tells me something bad is about to go down. Now maybe the NCAA turned it down because it was too large of an offer but either way making that sort of offer to the NCAA says all I need to know. You keep living in make believe world Brian. Pete Carroll got great players anually and won one championship. The media loved him and the southern cal thing. I think he is an average coach that will be back in college in a couple of years. USC got all of the hoopla and pagentry but at the end of the day he is nowhere near the coach Saben, Tressell, or Meyer are and that will be eveident very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 01:19 PM) USC got all of the hoopla and pagentry but at the end of the day he is nowhere near the coach Saben, Tressell, or Meyer are and that will be eveident very soon. What makes you think the same stuff won't eventually come out about Saban and Meyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) Pete Carroll got great players anually and won one championship. The media loved him and the southern cal thing. I think he is an average coach that will be back in college in a couple of years. USC got all of the hoopla and pagentry but at the end of the day he is nowhere near the coach Saben, Tressell, or Meyer are and that will be eveident very soon. He is an exceptional defensive mind. You guys aren't giving him enough credit and he really didn't fail with the Jets/Patriots. Was he a huge success no, but to call him a failure is inaccurate. The guy is a very good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Bears have reportedly not made an offer to Fewell. The Giants reporters are thinking this is a great sign for the Giants chances of getting Fewell. If the Bears miss out here, they will really be taking some PR hits. They've already whiffed on there 1st two choices for OC and Fewell certainly seems like the #1 choice for DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2010 -> 09:53 AM) Yup. I can't think of a single NFL coach who's won multiple championships and then later been proven to be breaking the rules. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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