Official 2009-2010 NFL Thread

[Steve9347]

Looks like Fewell is headed to the Giants.

Edited January 14, 2010 by Steve9347

[JPN366]

As an avid Seahawks fan, I can tell you that Seneca will never be more than a good backup. He gets plenty of balls batted down, he barely eclipses 6'0 and he is one of the more inaccurate passers in the league.

 

Fellow Seahawks fan here.

[JPN366]

I called him average not a failure. I am not sure he is good enough though to make Seattle a winner.

 

His ability to recruit is his best asset and this means nothing in the NFL.

 

It can only go up from here after two piss poor seasons. If players look at him as a winner, it won't hurt. Especially when one of the Seahawks captains, Lofa Tatupu, is one of his former players.

[Chisoxfn]

Apparently they did contact him last year, very quietly, and he turned them down. It might be different now.

They would pay him close to enough to leave. When/If Lovie leaves the Bears he will get another head coaching job.

[Chisoxfn]

Mike Tice? I'd be alright with that as our O-line coach. Not sure about as the OC. Honestly, I really don't know much of his history other than as the Vikings coach. I never even thought about him as a candidate.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,6522823.story

Tice is tough, charasmatic and would be a tremendous hire who has experience calling plays. I'd love him as our OC or Oline/TE coach.

 

Definitely on board with Tice.

[Chisoxfn]

He was good with vikes before he started scalping his super bowl tickets.

 

Everyone is saying that the OC job is a deadend job as everyone will be gone next year but a good OC could replace Lovie as you know the bears will look for any reason to go cheap with their next hire so it will be a guy that will nto have a staff.

It is not a dead-end job when you have Jay Cutler and the young wide-outs the Bears have. If I were a young up and comer this job would be a pretty good one to show-case my skills and potentially move up to a head coaching gig (whether in Chicago replacing Lovie or somewhere else).

 

Plus, an OC in CHicago will get pretty much free reign to run there side of the ball which is exactly what a real good offensive mind would want. I actually think, outside of the clear risk with Lovie only being there for a year, that the Bears OC position is a real good job.

 

And I should point out if the OC does good and is young and the Bears go hire a Cowher after the season, well, Cowher might darn well keep the OC (if he's good) because Cowher's focal point and likely whomever the Bears hire as an HC will be the defense.

[Chisoxfn]

Looks like Fuel is headed to the Giants.

Cheap f***ing Bears. Disgrace. I knew when the Giants were involved we wouldn't offer enough money to get him.

[MurcieOne]

Looks like Fuel is headed to the Giants.

 

Do you blame him?

 

I'd take better talent on D and more job security any day if I was an up and coming D-Coordinator.

[Chisoxfn]

Cheap f***ing Bears. Disgrace. I knew when the Giants were involved we wouldn't offer enough money to get him.

Do you have a link to this Steve? I'm looking and don't see anything official.

[MurcieOne]

It is not a dead-end job when you have Jay Cutler and the young wide-outs the Bears have. If I were a young up and comer this job would be a pretty good one to show-case my skills and potentially move up to a head coaching gig (whether in Chicago replacing Lovie or somewhere else).

 

Plus, an OC in CHicago will get pretty much free reign to run there side of the ball which is exactly what a real good offensive mind would want. I actually think, outside of the clear risk with Lovie only being there for a year, that the Bears OC position is a real good job.

 

And I should point out if the OC does good and is young and the Bears go hire a Cowher after the season, well, Cowher might darn well keep the OC (if he's good) because Cowher's focal point and likely whomever the Bears hire as an HC will be the defense.

 

I think you greatly overvalue the "great wideouts" we have, in fact I'd say we still have one of (if not) the worst WR core in the entire league. I see most candidates viewing position as a dead-end hire because most rational people know that Lovie and his entire staff will likely be fired at the end of the year. You cannot count on a new HC coming in and keeping you, it doesn't seem to happen very often.

[MurcieOne]

Do you have a link to this Steve? I'm looking and don't see anything official.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1991195,per...ator-14.article

[Chisoxfn]

Do you blame him?

 

I'd take better talent on D and more job security any day if I was an up and coming D-Coordinator.

The Giants defense was worse than the Bears though and if push came to shove it certainly sounded like he favored the Bears.

[Chisoxfn]

I think you greatly overvalue the "great wideouts" we have, in fact I'd say we still have one of (if not) the worst WR core in the entire league. I see most candidates viewing position as a dead-end hire because most rational people know that Lovie and his entire staff will likely be fired at the end of the year. You cannot count on a new HC coming in and keeping you, it doesn't seem to happen very often.

A good offensive mind will see the 8TD's Cutler threw. Not many OC's can get a job where you have a potential franchise QB to call the shots for. That makes the job enticing, regardless of the HC situation.

[MurcieOne]

A good offensive mind will see the 8TD's Cutler threw. Not many OC's can get a job where you have a potential franchise QB to call the shots for. That makes the job enticing, regardless of the HC situation.

 

Enticing for one of two types (1) a young up and comer who is willing to take a job to build his resume (regardless of if it only lasts for one year) or (2) a burnout who wants to prove he can still coach (regardless of if it only lasts one year). I agree that Cutler makes it somewhat enticing, but the HC position has to be at the forefront of their minds.

 

I dunno, this goes back to the reason why we should have just fired Lovie to begin with. At this point we may as well call up Ron Turner and see if he will coach on the cheap.

[MurcieOne]

The Giants defense was worse than the Bears though and if push came to shove it certainly sounded like he favored the Bears.

 

FWIW The Giants D was ranked 13th in the NFL and the Bears D was ranked 17th. Regardless, I'd take the talent on the Giants D over the talent on the Bears D right now (although it is pretty puzzling that they were as bad as they were last year).

[Harry Chappas]

It is not a dead-end job when you have Jay Cutler and the young wide-outs the Bears have. If I were a young up and comer this job would be a pretty good one to show-case my skills and potentially move up to a head coaching gig (whether in Chicago replacing Lovie or somewhere else).

 

Plus, an OC in CHicago will get pretty much free reign to run there side of the ball which is exactly what a real good offensive mind would want. I actually think, outside of the clear risk with Lovie only being there for a year, that the Bears OC position is a real good job.

 

And I should point out if the OC does good and is young and the Bears go hire a Cowher after the season, well, Cowher might darn well keep the OC (if he's good) because Cowher's focal point and likely whomever the Bears hire as an HC will be the defense.

 

I agree. With the potetial at wideout/TE and a Forte bounce back there are thigns to work with there.

 

The rumor around town is that the OC needs to run a Lovie desired offense and is thus a dead end job.

 

You get an OC that does a good/great job and they can replace lovie as lovie is not going to be extended for what he is making, no way in hell.

 

The whole situation is lovie cya.

[Chisoxfn]

FWIW The Giants D was ranked 13th in the NFL and the Bears D was ranked 17th. Regardless, I'd take the talent on the Giants D over the talent on the Bears D right now (although it is pretty puzzling that they were as bad as they were last year).

Look at how the Giants D finished though. Injuries were definitely a factor but Coughlin is on the hot-seat in New York too.

[DBAHO]

Look at how the Giants D finished though. Injuries were definitely a factor but Coughlin is on the hot-seat in New York too.

That defense basically quit on Sheridan at the end of the season though.

 

If they can get Tuck and Canty fully healthy, they have a pretty damn good front 4, but they need to get Phillips healthy at the safety spot.

 

I'd say on paper, they have more talent on D than the Bears currently do.

[southsider2k5]

Look at how the Giants D finished though. Injuries were definitely a factor but Coughlin is on the hot-seat in New York too.

 

injuries weren't huge for the Bears D?

[Balta1701]

According to local press reports, it was not an official offer, but UT did ask to see if Lovie Smith would be interested in their job at a $4 million/year contract.

[southsider2k5]

According to local press reports, it was not an official offer, but UT did ask to see if Lovie Smith would be interested in their job at a $4 million/year contract.

 

Again this year?

[HuskyCaucasian]

According to local press reports, it was not an official offer, but UT did ask to see if Lovie Smith would be interested in their job at a $4 million/year contract.

OH please take it Lovie!!!

[HuskyCaucasian]

According to local press reports, it was not an official offer, but UT did ask to see if Lovie Smith would be interested in their job at a $4 million/year contract.

Local reports or speculation? ProFootball Talk's article is written as a "he should consider it again" IF asked, while you phrased it as UT already asked.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Bettis: Cowher 'holding out' for Giants job

Bad news for Bears fans holding out hope that Bill Cowher ultimately will replace Lovie Smith: According to Jerome Bettis, the star running back for Cowher's Pittsburgh Steelers teams, Cowher wants to coach the New York Giants and is "holding out" for the job to open up.

 

Appearing Thursday on Sirius XM's "Mad Dog Radio," Bettis speculated that Cowher already would be the Giants' coach if Tom Coughlin hadn't led the team to a surprising victory in Super Bowl XLII.

 

"That's the team that he really coveted," Bettis said. "This is where he always wanted to be. The Mara family, he's been very close to them. ... He's known them very well and was on the inside track, before the Giants won the Super Bowl, for that job. And I think he's holding out for that opportunity if it presents itself."

Edited January 15, 2010 by Athomeboy_2000

[Balta1701]

Local reports or speculation? ProFootball Talk's article is written as a "he should consider it again" IF asked, while you phrased it as UT already asked.

Local press reports were as follows:

 

1. 2 nights ago, right after Kiffin's firing, the local news went through a list of potential coaching candidates. It led off with Smith, but gave no details and discussed other candidates in more depth.

 

2. Last night, the local news spent a little more time discussing candidates. It led off again with Smith, and this time said something along the lines of "the university may be willing to pay up to $4 million a season if Smith were interested in the job." It then went off to discuss other candidates.

 

The way the reports were phrased, it gave the very, very strong impression that a call was made by UT to Smith or his people after Kiffin's departure and at least to see if Smith would be interested, UT threw out a dollar amount. No indication was given as to whether a positive or negative response came from Smith's side, nor was there a suggestion as to anything as specific as a full, detailed offer being given.

 

If they did not place a specific, new call to Smith's people yesterday, then the people who wrote that statement ought to be running shows on Fox News, because it came through very strongly what they were trying to say.