lostfan Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 09:50 PM) Absolutely, and that's been a strategy that has really hurt him quite a bit. That doesn't apply in this case though since this move was a no brainer. If you are going to give that much up for a guy who you think is a franchise QB, you keep him around for the rest of his career. ?? Not really, keeps the cap under control, keeps players off the FA market and from having their cap numbers inflate. Harris got hurt, so that can be overlooked. The only one that really backfired bad was Vasher, who was decent when he signed his extension but blew fat cock ever since. Kreutz has declined too but it was hard to argue with his extension at the time. Hid that with Urlacher, Alex Brown, Tillman, Gould, Clark, Orton, tried it with Briggs, didn't work, but Briggs ended up playing himself. Kreutz isn't playing up to his contract but you couldn't argue with the extension at the time when he was an All-Pro center. I don't see how extending contracts of players that have proven themselves in your system is more risky than giving random contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 09:08 PM) ?? Not really, keeps the cap under control, keeps players off the FA market and from having their cap numbers inflate. Harris got hurt, so that can be overlooked. The only one that really backfired bad was Vasher, who was decent when he signed his extension but blew fat cock ever since. Kreutz has declined too but it was hard to argue with his extension at the time. Hid that with Urlacher, Alex Brown, Tillman, Gould, Clark, Orton, tried it with Briggs, didn't work, but Briggs ended up playing himself. Kreutz isn't playing up to his contract but you couldn't argue with the extension at the time when he was an All-Pro center. I don't see how extending contracts of players that have proven themselves in your system is more risky than giving random contracts. The defense is old, expensive, and not very good. That's who I have in mind when I rip the giving out new money to current players like it's candy strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 10:10 PM) The defense is old, expensive, and not very good. That's who I have in mind when I rip the giving out new money to current players like it's candy strategy. The bonus money is paid early so they don't have to hang onto the s***ty players for that long if they don't want to. Out of the defense, the only one that I'd be looking at that's overpaid and has to go is Vasher. But it's not like you can just arbitrarily replace these guys, unless you draft them you have to find them in FA and that costs even more and leads to the same problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I 100% legitimately have my roommate convinced that there was a specific reason for choosing the teams for the game in London and it was to showcase to the rest of the world what the US (Patriots) will do if threatened by Pirates (Buccs) in real life because they knew the Patriots are going to kick the s*** out of the Buccs in the game. He is currently searching online to see if its true. I wish I had been recording this because it was gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 09:32 PM) I 100% legitimately have my roommate convinced that there was a specific reason for choosing the teams for the game in London and it was to showcase to the rest of the world what the US (Patriots) will do if threatened by Pirates (Buccs) in real life because they knew the Patriots are going to kick the s*** out of the Buccs in the game. He is currently searching online to see if its true. I wish I had been recording this because it was gold. Is your roommate 7 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 That's a pretty affordable deal for the franchise player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 07:08 PM) Not really, keeps the cap under control, keeps players off the FA market and from having their cap numbers inflate. Harris got hurt, so that can be overlooked. Harris was hurt before he got his extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 11:18 PM) Harris was hurt before he got his extension. I think you're right. I don't think they anticipated him falling completely off like that though. He's only just started to not look like s*** anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yeah, Harris has been a bust all-around...he simply never returned to the player he was before the injury. Merriman seems to be having the same experience in San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 08:38 PM) nfl.com Excellent. I only wish it could have been a true long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 09:29 PM) Excellent. I only wish it could have been a true long term deal. Well it is still 4 more years after this one, right? A lot can happen in 4 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) Well it is still 4 more years after this one, right? A lot can happen in 4 years... Because of the style of NFL contracts, there is no downside to a 7-10 year contract. The longer you can wrap up a guy like Jay Cutler, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 09:32 PM) I 100% legitimately have my roommate convinced that there was a specific reason for choosing the teams for the game in London and it was to showcase to the rest of the world what the US (Patriots) will do if threatened by Pirates (Buccs) in real life because they knew the Patriots are going to kick the s*** out of the Buccs in the game. He is currently searching online to see if its true. I wish I had been recording this because it was gold. does your roomate have a smoking problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 09:06 AM) does your roomate have a smoking problem? more of a smoking weed problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) more of a smoking weed problem that's no problem at all. What is a problem is the crack that he smokes with the weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:47 AM) that's no problem at all. What is a problem is the crack that he smokes with the weed. And of course the hilarity that ensues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Packers sign Ahman Green eh. Hopefully the guy has something left, sick of watching Wynn and Jackson's useless production when they spell Grant. This is definitely the week to find out vs. the Browns, if he can be any help at all in subbing in for Grant or receiving out of the backfield then he should help bolster the run game some. Adding him surely can't hurt what is already a terrible ground game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 02:09 PM) And of course the hilarity that ensues. that is no problem either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Tinoisamoa is done for the year. He was good for the 15 or so plays he was on the field for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 11:49 AM) Tinoisamoa is done for the year. He was good for the 15 or so plays he was on the field for this year. he did look good the few minutes he was out there. Would be way more confident in the Bears with a Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisamoa LB core, instead of the Briggs/Roach/Hillenmeyer group playing now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Is Hillenmeyer back yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 12:24 PM) he did look good the few minutes he was out there. Would be way more confident in the Bears with a Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisamoa LB core, instead of the Briggs/Roach/Hillenmeyer group playing now.. Thanks Mr Obvious, you're a lifesaver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 20, 2009 -> 10:22 PM) Yeah, Harris has been a bust all-around...he simply never returned to the player he was before the injury. Merriman seems to be having the same experience in San Diego. To defend him...it's gonna take a long time to get back to the explosiveness a DT needs when you have a knee injury like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) To defend him...it's gonna take a long time to get back to the explosiveness a DT needs when you have a knee injury like that. I think it was the hamstring tear off the bone more than the knee injury that has reduced Harris to mere mortal status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 02:49 PM) I think it was the hamstring tear off the bone more than the knee injury that has reduced Harris to mere mortal status Whoops, you're right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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