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QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 6, 2009 -> 03:09 PM)
Saw Dominic Rhodes was cut. The guy ran for 600 yards in a back up role last year. Wouldn't mind him as a back up to Forte since Jones is out.

 

That would be a great move. It really would give the Bears a 1B back who can handle the passing game.

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QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 01:40 PM)
I guess im the only one who thinks the Patriots are dumbasses for trading Seymour for a 2011 1st round pick.

 

The Patriots have already lost a bunch of people off their defense this offseason now they trade away a pro bowl DE. They are a team that was already in position to contend for the Super Bowl why make that trade? And they dont know how Oakland is going to be in 2 years, its quite possible they lose out on a good pick now for a later pick in a couple seasons.

 

Of course, I don't know if that's all Oakland would give them and refused this one. Either way, its a little puzzling as to why they make this move.

He signed a big contract a season ago right?

 

People say that Wilfork and Ty Warren are more important to their D, so maybe they thought Seymour was expendable from that point of view.

 

And remember they last guy they traded for a 1st rounder, Deion Branch, he didn't exactly light it up for Seattle.

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QUOTE (DBAHO @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 09:30 AM)
He signed a big contract a season ago right?

 

People say that Wilfork and Ty Warren are more important to their D, so maybe they thought Seymour was expendable from that point of view.

 

And remember they last guy they traded for a 1st rounder, Deion Branch, he didn't exactly light it up for Seattle.

 

No Seymour will be a free agent after the season I believe.

 

Deion Branch also wasn't a multiple time Pro Bowl player either. He was a guy who had one ok season and won the Super Bowl MVP. Now that was a great deal.. this one I am not seeing it.

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We're less than a week from their first game, and Eric Mangini still won't say whether his starting QB will be Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. He says he's keeping it under wraps so that it will surprise the other team, but really, there's no way this is a good idea. Even his 2 QB's and the rest of his offense don't know who has the job.
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QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 03:40 AM)
I guess im the only one who thinks the Patriots are dumbasses for trading Seymour for a 2011 1st round pick.

 

You pretty much are the only one I've seen say that. Every year the patriots have multiple firsts and second, and they are trading away a DE who is only under contract one more year and they wouldn't pay him anyway. And I'd be shocked if the raiders left the muck they are in by 2011.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 05:07 PM)
We're less than a week from their first game, and Eric Mangini still won't say whether his starting QB will be Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. He says he's keeping it under wraps so that it will surprise the other team, but really, there's no way this is a good idea. Even his 2 QB's and the rest of his offense don't know who has the job.

 

Mangenius!

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QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 12:01 PM)
You pretty much are the only one I've seen say that. Every year the patriots have multiple firsts and second, and they are trading away a DE who is only under contract one more year and they wouldn't pay him anyway. And I'd be shocked if the raiders left the muck they are in by 2011.

 

Im not talking about the value of the trade, clearly a 30 year old DE thats a free agent who they didn't wanna sign anyways for a 1st is great for them..

 

Its not like he cant play anymore or something, and for a team that lost a lot from their defense they make this deal for nothing to help them now.. nothing to help them next season.. and maybe a really high pick in two years?

 

Teams built for the super bowl don't need to be making moves like this, they weakened themselves and hey that's fine with me I hate em anyways and whatever weakens them is better for me..

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QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 02:17 PM)
Im not talking about the value of the trade, clearly a 30 year old DE thats a free agent who they didn't wanna sign anyways for a 1st is great for them..

 

Its not like he cant play anymore or something, and for a team that lost a lot from their defense they make this deal for nothing to help them now.. nothing to help them next season.. and maybe a really high pick in two years?

 

Teams built for the super bowl don't need to be making moves like this, they weakened themselves and hey that's fine with me I hate em anyways and whatever weakens them is better for me..

 

Don't you think the Patriots front office deserves the benefit of the doubt here? They have been the king of the AFC east for almost a decade now. Even last season's injuries to almost half their starters still did not prevent them from going 11-5. They probably have someone to fill right in.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 12:07 PM)
We're less than a week from their first game, and Eric Mangini still won't say whether his starting QB will be Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. He says he's keeping it under wraps so that it will surprise the other team, but really, there's no way this is a good idea. Even his 2 QB's and the rest of his offense don't know who has the job.

 

Yeah, he's really going to scare his opponent with a big surprise as to which crappy QB will start for his crappy team. :lolhitting

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QUOTE (rangercal @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 12:49 PM)
Don't you think the Patriots front office deserves the benefit of the doubt here? They have been the king of the AFC east for almost a decade now. Even last season's injuries to almost half their starters still did not prevent them from going 11-5. They probably have someone to fill right in.

Second round pick Ron Brace and 6th Round Pick Myron Pryor have reportedly performed well in training camp. They also free up cap space to sign Vince Wilfork at the same spot. They're also planning to play more 4-3 sets this year reportedly, which alters the type of lineman they need.

 

That said, it's still an interesting move in a number of ways. Between Seau, Bruschi, Seymour, Vrabel, and Rodney Harrison, there's been major turnover on that defense. It's now a lot younger, but it's suddenly missing all of its veteran leadership except for the coach. So, there's clearly a challenge on that side of the ball for NE.

 

I think there's also some interesting implications if there's a 2011 lockout but I don't know enough to say more.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 03:57 PM)
Second round pick Ron Brace and 6th Round Pick Myron Pryor have reportedly performed well in training camp. They also free up cap space to sign Vince Wilfork at the same spot. They're also planning to play more 4-3 sets this year reportedly, which alters the type of lineman they need.

 

That said, it's still an interesting move in a number of ways. Between Seau, Bruschi, Seymour, Vrabel, and Rodney Harrison, there's been major turnover on that defense. It's now a lot younger, but it's suddenly missing all of its veteran leadership except for the coach. So, there's clearly a challenge on that side of the ball for NE.

 

I think there's also some interesting implications if there's a 2011 lockout but I don't know enough to say more.

 

The New England organization has been very good at getting a return for talent before it's too late (FA,Old age etc)

 

 

I do find it interesting that they are going to more 4-3. I thought 3-4 was where most of the league wanted to be? If NE is doing something the bears do, then that makes me feel better about the Bears decision to stay 4-3 so long.

 

Here's an interesting article http://bleacherreport.com/articles/249115-...cover-2-defense (bleacher report fwiw) but he makes a good point about the Steelers switching to a 4-3 cover 2 once LeBeau retires, because that is what Mike Tomlin is familiar with as a D coordinator in minny and Dbacks coach in Tampa.

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QUOTE (rangercal @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 03:39 PM)
The New England organization has been very good at getting a return for talent before it's too late (FA,Old age etc)

 

 

I do find it interesting that they are going to more 4-3. I thought 3-4 was where most of the league wanted to be? If NE is doing something the bears do, then that makes me feel better about the Bears decision to stay 4-3 so long.

 

Here's an interesting article http://bleacherreport.com/articles/249115-...cover-2-defense (bleacher report fwiw) but he makes a good point about the Steelers switching to a 4-3 cover 2 once LeBeau retires, because that is what Mike Tomlin is familiar with as a D coordinator in minny and Dbacks coach in Tampa.

Something like 12 teams are going to be running a base 3-4 IIRC. The real rub is...you need certain types of players to make it work. You need a very strong LB Corps and you need that ridiculous run-stopping DT in the middle. There are only so many of those DT's around that can fit in that system. As more teams switch, the advantage to switching will go down unless you already have the players.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 06:42 PM)
Something like 12 teams are going to be running a base 3-4 IIRC. The real rub is...you need certain types of players to make it work. You need a very strong LB Corps and you need that ridiculous run-stopping DT in the middle. There are only so many of those DT's around that can fit in that system. As more teams switch, the advantage to switching will go down unless you already have the players.

 

Good points. The packers really made out with BJ Raji. That could be the difference between them going 6-10 and 10-6 in their 3-4 "adjustment" year. Those guys are rare, indeed.

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Man, this lady that is trying to sue Roethlisberger for rape seems like she is extra special crazy, she says she will drop her lawsuit if Ben admits to raping her.

 

The only problem is that multiple hotel workers saw her go into his hotel room multiple times, she had been sending him messages on facebook, texts, and emails talking about how great everything was, and tried a "im his baby-mama" trick too.

 

I dont see this going well for the accuser

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:03 PM)
Man, this lady that is trying to sue Roethlisberger for rape seems like she is extra special crazy, she says she will drop her lawsuit if Ben admits to raping her.

 

The only problem is that multiple hotel workers saw her go into his hotel room multiple times, she had been sending him messages on facebook, texts, and emails talking about how great everything was, and tried a "im his baby-mama" trick too.

 

I dont see this going well for the accuser

That there is basically admitting defeat. No way she can win now, and Ben ain't going to settle for that.

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QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 07:48 PM)
That article is fantastic. Wasn't he busted for juicing a while back too?

i don't believe he was personally "Busted" but he was amongst the 3 panthers who's names came out after their doctor was arrested following their super bowl run IIRC.

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A lawyer for a Nevada casino worker accusing Ben Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her last year at a Lake Tahoe resort wants a list of every woman the Steelers quarterback has slept with and any who have claimed sexual misconduct on his part.

 

Reno attorney Calvin Dunlap filed the request late Tuesday as part of a court filing opposing motions to have the civil lawsuit dismissed. Dunlap also requested, among other things, Roethlisberger's telephone and e-mail records and for him to undergo psychiatric and physical examinations. His lawyers have suggested the same for his accuser, calling her "disturbed and calculating" and a "sex addict."

 

Dunlap declined to comment beyond the court filing.

Frankly I hope the court denies this. Becaus eI just don't wanna know.
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