BaseballNick Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Greinke just missed hitting TCQ in the head with a fastball in the first inning last night. Carlos got out of the way, but it seemed like a message was sent. Then, in the very next AB, Greinke pegged Carlos in the back with a fastball up and in. Greinke seemed to have pretty good control all night, so it's hard to argue that those pitches were unintentional. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 1. Beaning means hitting them in the head, which did not happen. 2. No way it was intentional, though I am sure he was trying to throw inside, to get him off the plate. 3. TCQ's reaction wasn't even that bad, the catcher just got nervous, he wasn't going after the pitcher or anything. 4. There is nothing to retaliate for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxPride56 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Maybe we should try hitting the baseball, not the other team. Edited April 9, 2009 by SoxPride56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Way too early to start something like that with a team we play 15 or so more times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 07:05 AM) 2. No way it was intentional, though I am sure he was trying to throw inside, to get him off the plate. Not sure about that. Quentin has a habit of hanging over the plate, and Grinke almost plucked him in the head before actually hitting him in his next AB. Given that Greinke wasn't exactly struggling with his command last night, it appeared to me that he was definitely trying to send a message. Whether or not that message involved plucking him (rather than brushing him back) is unclear. I'm disappointed that Ozzie didn't retaliate with at least a brushback. He needs to protect his players. Edited April 9, 2009 by WCSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:05 AM) 1. Beaning means hitting them in the head, which did not happen. 2. No way it was intentional, though I am sure he was trying to throw inside, to get him off the plate. 3. TCQ's reaction wasn't even that bad, the catcher just got nervous, he wasn't going after the pitcher or anything. 4. There is nothing to retaliate for. Agreed, it looked to me that Quentin saw Olivo step out over the plate, so he was gonna walk around him. Should we purposely hit someone, no. But we should play hard and beat the crap out of them today, but that should be the teams attitude everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Let's focus on winning baseball games first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:11 AM) Not sure about that. Quentin has a habit of hanging over the plate, and Grinke almost plucked him in the head before actually hitting him in his next AB. Given that Greinke wasn't exactly struggling with his command last night, it appeared to me that he was definitely trying to send a message. Whether or not that message involved plucking him (rather than brushing him back) is unclear. I'm disappointed that Ozzie didn't retaliate with at least a brushback. He needs to protect his players. Ozzie doesn't throw the ball, Its up to the teammates to protect each other. Seeing that we have an abundance of games left with them. I think now was not the time if it was intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 No need to retaliate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I say put one in Teahan's head. He was hit intentionally after he didn't back off the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) I say put one in Teahan's head. He was hit intentionally after he didn't back off the plate. You never throw at someone's head. If you want to drill them, you throw just behind them and aim for the middle of the numbers in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 I do think Greinke was throwing at TCQ, but I don't want to see anyone get suspended or hurt, so I say don't retaliate (not now at least). Greinke's control was too good for those two pitches not to be intentional. He missed the stike zone by a wide margin on both pitches. I agree with most of you in that we move forward a focus on winning. I just wanted to get a sense for what everyone thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (Soxpranos @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 07:21 AM) Ozzie doesn't throw the ball, Its up to the teammates to protect each other. Judging by his reaction afterwards, I'm pretty sure that Ozzie explicitly instructed Sean Tracey to hit a batter a few years ago. I can see the argument that a 2-0 game in early April may not be the best time for retaliation. But if it happens again in this series, something will have to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 The Royals pulled this same s*** with JD last year, I am fully in favor of pegging one of those uppity f***s in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 To answer the thread title question: Yes, by actually hitting the f***ing ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I also believe we should attempt to kill a few Royals, they obviously deserve it being evil and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I really dont think that CQ can get too upset with getting hit the way he hovers over the plate. Grienke wasn't throwing at him IMO. Just trying to back him of the plate. I would want our pitchers to do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 They should retaliate with hard slides and solid play. I don't want the inside fastball taken away from Johnny Danks today. We need this game because even though the Royals have gotten better they still play in Kansas City, they still wear blue uniforms, and they still have holes all over the place. We need to take this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:45 AM) I really dont think that CQ can get too upset with getting hit the way he hovers over the plate. Grienke wasn't throwing at him IMO. Just trying to back him of the plate. I would want our pitchers to do the same thing. The middle of his back wasn't hanging over the plate. if it had hit him in the hands or something might be a different story. He aimed in there, his control was way too good yesterday for it to have been a mistake. He may not have intended to hit him or throw near his head, but if he didnt move the first time, it would have hit him in the noggin. I say get a lead and then plunk Olivo since he is such a whiny little b**** anyway. The way he jumped out there so fast, he knew right where that pitch was going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) I say put one in Teahan's head. He was hit intentionally after he didn't back off the plate. QUOTE (Jimmywins1 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:38 AM) The Royals pulled this same s*** with JD last year, I am fully in favor of pegging one of those uppity f***s in the face. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 When someone crowds the plate as much as CQ does, they're going to get hit a lot. No need to retaliate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Its never wrong to plunk someone if the team feels it is necessary, but yeah i would like to see some baseballs put into play off the white sox' bats today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Anyone see the spiking that Aviles gave AJ at first? I know he was sliding back into first, but he lifted that foot a little. I agree with Steve...get some f***ing hits and blow this team out...there's your retaliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 08:42 AM) When someone crowds the plate as much as CQ does, they're going to get hit a lot. No need to retaliate. You still don't like seeing balls thrown at their head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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