caulfield12 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Is there anyone in AAA or AA that would be clearly better than MacDougal and Carrasco? I think MacDougal is about one more appearance like tonight from getting released unconditionally for the good of the organization...but Carrasco might have been "lightning in a bottle" for one-half season and we probably will need to look somewhere else for the dreaded 6th and 7th spots in the pen. Egbert? Russell? Broadway? Are there any relievers who were DFA'ed at the end of ST that are worth a look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 There were a lot of bargains available towards the end of this offseason, and I guess we were out of money and couldn't sign anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Poreda and Egbert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 What happened to Franklyn German? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 bret prinz? ryan buckvich? dewon day? mike myers? andy sisco? heath phillips? man oh man that 07 year was painful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Jeff Nelson? Aug. Montero? Sean Tracey? David Aardsma? How can MacDougal have a 95-97 MPH fastball and have NO confidence in it at all??? We'll never figure it out I guess....he just throws slider after slider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 What's Jeff Nelson doing these days? Lace 'em up one last time J! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 10:10 PM) Jeff Nelson? Aug. Montero? Sean Tracey? David Aardsma? How can MacDougal have a 95-97 MPH fastball and have NO confidence in it at all??? We'll never figure it out I guess....he just throws slider after slider. hahahahahah augustin montera....oh man those were fun days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 11, 2009 -> 03:10 AM) Jeff Nelson? Aug. Montero? Sean Tracey? David Aardsma? How can MacDougal have a 95-97 MPH fastball and have NO confidence in it at all??? We'll never figure it out I guess....he just throws slider after slider. His fastball is around 92 mph these days. That plus fastball was in KC during a different era in baseball. MacDougal is a mental midget though, as I've heard he makes Jenks seem like a rocket scientist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 10:00 PM) What happened to Franklyn German? German would have been an option 8-10 years ago when he was still a prospect...he just doesn't have an explosive fastball anymore. MacDougal did go to Clemson, lol....any pitchers who went to university in South Carolina should be rejected, except for Roberto Hernandez (USC-Aiken) Edited April 11, 2009 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 09:58 PM) There were a lot of bargains available towards the end of this offseason, and I guess we were out of money and couldn't sign anyone. Juan cruz was a steal for the royals. QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 09:59 PM) Poreda and Egbert. Poreda is just not ready, he needs a plus pitcher to compliment the fastball. His fastball still seems rather shaky, looks flat at times. Egbert is getting to the age of now or never, though his periphs were solid last season. He will likely have to dominate early on to have a legit chance at the roster. QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 10:00 PM) What happened to Franklyn German? He was reassigned due to his suckitude. QUOTE (daa84 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 10:05 PM) bret prinz? ryan buckvich? dewon day? mike myers? andy sisco? heath phillips? man oh man that 07 year was painful EW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 You're going to tell me that Mcdougal and Carrasco have more upside then Poreda and Egbert? If they're ever going to figure it out it might as well be at the major league level. I say we give Poreda and Egbert a month or so in the minors, see what happens, and then bring them up. Ideally, we'll be able to phase Pordeda into the rotation by the All-Star break, and bring up Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 09:10 PM) What's Jeff Nelson doing these days? Lace 'em up one last time J! Maybe Mike Jackson is still hanging around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 08:17 PM) You're going to tell me that Mcdougal and Carrasco have more upside then Poreda and Egbert? If they're ever going to figure it out it might as well be at the major league level. I say we give Poreda and Egbert a month or so in the minors, see what happens, and then bring them up. Ideally, we'll be able to phase Pordeda into the rotation by the All-Star break, and bring up Link. Poreda in to the rotation by the all star break is no where near ideal. Poreda taking one of the 2 openings next year is ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 10:17 PM) You're going to tell me that Mcdougal and Carrasco have more upside then Poreda and Egbert? If they're ever going to figure it out it might as well be at the major league level. I say we give Poreda and Egbert a month or so in the minors, see what happens, and then bring them up. Ideally, we'll be able to phase Pordeda into the rotation by the All-Star break, and bring up Link. Macdougal will be gone sooner rather than later unless if the unexpected transpires. I like to think carrasco got by on smoke and mirrors, he is far from a long term option, short term for that matter either. My point is you do not bring up someone for the sake of of bringing them up... though it sometimes comes to that due to desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (qwerty @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 11:30 PM) My point is you do not bring up someone for the sake of of bringing them up... though it sometimes comes to that due to desperation. I agree, but if performance from both Poreda and Egbert merits a promotion. I say, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 MacDougal just has to go. Put him out of his misery, release him and let him get on with his life. Does he know how to play basketball? He's tall enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I think I'd rather keep Poreda in the minors to work on his pitches and development. I wouldn't mind calling Egbert up, I think he's due. I think I'd prefer getting rid of MacDougal, but keep Carrasco a little longer. Also, I think we should look for a free agent reliever. I actually prefer having someone like Gaudin instead of MacDougal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Nobody has started a game thread yet, but looking at the pitching matchup tomorrow, can you believe we are looking at a 1-4 start with all the games played at home? My god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Ideasd for the bullpen? No, but tonight was brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 10, 2009 -> 10:28 PM) Nobody has started a game thread yet, but looking at the pitching matchup tomorrow, can you believe we are looking at a 1-4 start with all the games played at home? My god. Even with our team last year, we were pretty bad on the road. Here's a pretty realistic scenario for the next 10 days. 1-1 versus Minn (2-4) 1-2 at DET (3-6) 1-3 at TB (4-9) 1-2 at BALT (5-11) The way things are going now, 6-10 or 5-11 isn't going to surprise me very much at all. Maybe 7-9 if we're being REALLY REALLY optimistic. Luckily, CLE is 0-4 and doing worse than us so far, but DET is really getting some good starting pitching so far, with the exception of arguably their best pitcher, Verlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 5-11 is a disastrous start. I realize it's early, but we need to start playing some baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Granted it is still early but this beating was terrible tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Mac Dougal should be sent packing and Egbert brought up--within a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 11, 2009 -> 12:06 AM) Even with our team last year, we were pretty bad on the road. Here's a pretty realistic scenario for the next 10 days. 1-1 versus Minn (2-4) 1-2 at DET (3-6) 1-3 at TB (4-9) 1-2 at BALT (5-11) The way things are going now, 6-10 or 5-11 isn't going to surprise me very much at all. Maybe 7-9 if we're being REALLY REALLY optimistic. Luckily, CLE is 0-4 and doing worse than us so far, but DET is really getting some good starting pitching so far, with the exception of arguably their best pitcher, Verlander. How is that realistic at all? It's possible, but far from realistic. Ever since the '05 season I believe we've played Detroit tough. We only sucked against them when they were the worst, or one of the worst, teams in all of baseball. Tampa Bay isn't like a juggernaut or anything; they're very good, but also very beatable. It's not like we're getting the Yanks or BoSox top 2/3 starters thrown at us, although I bet we'd definitely lose the first game in the dome. Baltimore f***ing blows, no reason we can't sweep that one. I don't think we're hitting Liriano, but I could definitely see us going 7-5 over that stretch, winning the series in Detroit and Baltimore plus breaking even in Tampa. I guess I just have no idea whatsoever why you'd pencil us in at 1-2 at Baltimore. BTW, Carlos is hitting the ball with authority now. The back end of our pen and our top 3 starters look good. Our 4-5 starters should be shaky as they continue to work themselves up, but they're at least healthy enough to pitch, and their names aren't Marquez and Richard. Wise in CF and the front of our bullpen are our only problems right now because we can never count on Paulie and Thome early on as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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