bmags Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm not saying I don't want to see BA in CF, I'm saying that signing Pods was not to supplant Brian. It is to upgrade our 4th OF, whom Ozzie uses quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:28 PM) I'm not saying I don't want to see BA in CF, I'm saying that signing Pods was not to supplant Brian. It is to upgrade our 4th OF, whom Ozzie uses quite a bit. That might be KW's reasoning behind this but we've seen Ozzie's disdain for playing BA regularly. Pods will likely be playing much more than we want him to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I agree with the Pods > Owens faction of Soxtalk. I actually think it will be less likely that BA will lose playing time to Pods due to Pods D in CF. Pods did play some CF while he was away from the Sox. Maybe he improved a bit and will do and adequate job for short times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:28 PM) I'm not saying I don't want to see BA in CF, I'm saying that signing Pods was not to supplant Brian. It is to upgrade our 4th OF, whom Ozzie uses quite a bit. If that's all he's used as then no one here will have any complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I don't know how good BA would be if exposed over long periods of time. Start BA against lefties and keep Pods down at 9th against righties. See how it works out. I have a feeling Ozzie is tempted to put Pods at leadoff...ewww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 What bringing back Pods shows is how thin the sox are in the OF. And to think some thought signing Willy Taveras was a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 08:28 PM) I'm not saying I don't want to see BA in CF, I'm saying that signing Pods was not to supplant Brian. It is to upgrade our 4th OF, whom Ozzie uses quite a bit. That's if the sox put Pods in LF, Brian in CF and CQ in RF, for late inning defensive purposes. But I'm not sure if the Sox want to move CQ around and take the chance on him getting hurt. I know he's played a lot of RF, but not lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 04:08 PM) I don't know how good BA would be if exposed over long periods of time. Start BA against lefties and keep Pods down at 9th against righties. See how it works out. I have a feeling Ozzie is tempted to put Pods at leadoff...ewww. Scott Podsednik is a 33 year old marginal offensive player (.256/.322/.353/.675 in 1008 PA over the last 3 seasons) and terrible center fielder with an awful arm. Why anyone would a player such as this to receive 75% of the total PA in center field is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) Scott Podsednik is a 33 year old marginal offensive player (.256/.322/.353/.675 in 1008 PA over the last 3 seasons) and terrible center fielder with an awful arm. Why anyone would a player such as this to receive 75% of the total PA in center field is beyond me. To protect capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The only positive about Pods over Wise/BA/Owens right now is the plate discipline. He'll draw more walks and see a ton more pitches than any of those other 3. And he can get a bunt down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Why not just go after Edmonds? He would likely produce more than Pods will and is 10x better defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Linnwood @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:34 PM) That picture really disturbs me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Glad to hear Podsednik is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:09 PM) The only positive about Pods over Wise/BA/Owens right now is the plate discipline. He'll draw more walks and see a ton more pitches than any of those other 3. And he can get a bunt down. It just reminds me of how much I hate watching him hit. He works counts well because he just doesn't swing the bat. For his career he's only swung at 36.7% of his total pitches seen. Last year that would have been the 4th lowest swing% of the 343 players who had at least 200 PA. He makes contact at a very high rate; his 88.1% number would put him in the upper 14 percentile of qualified hitters last year but he chooses to just watch pitches. For his career only 7% of his total strikes are from him swinging and missing while 38% are looking. That's why back in '05 and '06 50% of his strikeouts (total: 171 K) were looking. He's incredibly disciplined, anyone who watches 63%+ of pitches into the glove has to be but his strikezone vision isn't great. Good discipline + poor zone vision = bat on shoulder approach. He doesn't really draw walks but 8 to 9 percent of his plate appearances will likely end in him jogging to 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO2005 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Good pickup in my eyes. I just don't think Brian Anderson is meant to be a starter on this team. I mean in all seriousness Wise vs. Podsednik? They are pretty much the same offensively... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:51 PM) They are pretty much the same offensively... They're almost total opposites in terms of approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 As others had said, I felt at first that Pods is better than Wise or Owens and still do, but if that means Pods in CF over BA... I'm gonna be STEAMED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 06:51 PM) Good pickup in my eyes. I just don't think Brian Anderson is meant to be a starter on this team. I mean in all seriousness Wise vs. Podsednik? They are pretty much the same offensively... Maybe so in some folks eyes. But this isn't about what each of them can do OFFENSIVELY. There are plenty of guys on this team that can rake offensively. The problem is, defensively, up the middle is still a pretty big question mark. Facts are facts: I'll take a .240 hitting BA in CF than a .270 maybe hitting Pods in CF with his spaghetti arm and clueless deer approach in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 06:06 PM) Maybe so in some folks eyes. But this isn't about what each of them can do OFFENSIVELY. There are plenty of guys on this team that can rake offensively. The problem is, defensively, up the middle is still a pretty big question mark. Facts are facts: I'll take a .240 hitting BA in CF than a .270 maybe hitting Pods in CF with his spaghetti arm and clueless deer approach in the field. We figured you'd be happy. I'm glad to see your avy back. It reminds me how much I didn't like the post-2005 Pods. Hopefully he's rehabbed his groin with his wife enough to be effective... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) Scott Podsednik is a 33 year old marginal offensive player (.256/.322/.353/.675 in 1008 PA over the last 3 seasons) and terrible center fielder with an awful arm. Why anyone would a player such as this to receive 75% of the total PA in center field is beyond me. It's Ozzie likes fast players and the fact that he doesn't like BA. BA himself isn't so impressive you know... If BA shows me he can hit .250 playing everyday, I'll take that. I think everybody will. Problem is, he probably can't. He hit .230 last year while getting selected at bats where he saw nothing but fastballs half the time. Throw him a breaking ball and he will squeal. What makes you think BA is going to hit .250-.260 while playing everyday? I'm not hating on the guy, it's just what the stats tell me. Edited April 15, 2009 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:40 PM) It just reminds me of how much I hate watching him hit. He works counts well because he just doesn't swing the bat. For his career he's only swung at 36.7% of his total pitches seen. Last year that would have been the 4th lowest swing% of the 343 players who had at least 200 PA. He makes contact at a very high rate; his 88.1% number would put him in the upper 14 percentile of qualified hitters last year but he chooses to just watch pitches. For his career only 7% of his total strikes are from him swinging and missing while 38% are looking. That's why back in '05 and '06 50% of his strikeouts (total: 171 K) were looking. He's incredibly disciplined, anyone who watches 63%+ of pitches into the glove has to be but his strikezone vision isn't great. Good discipline + poor zone vision = bat on shoulder approach. He doesn't really draw walks but 8 to 9 percent of his plate appearances will likely end in him jogging to 1st. I gotta agree with this. I remember thinking back in 2005 about how Podsednik was probably one of the worst .290 hitters I've ever seen. I saw why the next two seasons. I like his discipline, which is good for a leadoff hitter, but you have to be able to swing the bat if you want to lead off as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 i would have preferred lance Johnson, Rudy Law or Jim Landis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) It's Ozzie likes fast players and the fact that he doesn't like BA. BA himself isn't so impressive you know... If BA shows me he can hit .250 playing everyday, I'll take that. I think everybody will. Problem is, he probably can't. He hit .230 last year while getting selected at bats where he saw nothing but fastballs half the time. Throw him a breaking ball and he will squeal. What makes you think BA is going to hit .250-.260 while playing everyday? I'm not hating on the guy, it's just what the stats tell me. If he does manage a .250/.260 AVG then he's right where Pods has been over the past 3 season but with a little less speed, more power and infinitely better defense. Just to clear that up. If anyone believes Brian is capable of hitting .250 Scott Podsednik has to revert back to his mid '00s self to justify being an everyday CF considering how god awful he is out there and even then it might now be worth it. It's not so much about Anderson being a good everyday player as it is Podsednik being a poor offensive player who's getting old and can't play the field even adequately and hence I can't imagine the justification for using him as an everyday player right off the bat. The justification for giving Anderson the vast majority of ABs? Even if he doesn't hit he's still going to be an above average defender with a strong arm at a top 2 DEFENSIVE position. The Sox don't have an sure-fire everyday centerfielder in the organization right now but they do have a 27 year old former first round pick with a whole lot of talent and less than 700 career PA, unless a more capable player is acquired sometime soon, now is probably the time to give him that one last shot to prove that he can hit major league pitching. If he gets the ABs and fails then that's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) What makes you think BA is going to hit .250-.260 while playing everyday? I'm not hating on the guy, it's just what the stats tell me.Career minor league numbers of .293/.362/.474, which includes his awful 2007 season when he was hurt. Shot through our minor league system in 3 years. Highly ranked prospect during his time in the minors. Has shown offensive talent in spurts, during the second half of 2006, spring training, and in very limited MLB action since 2006. He's also never really been given a chance, outside of 2006 (and even then he didn't play a full season) to show if he can cut it as a full-time player. This should be his chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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