DukeNukeEm Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 http://wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf pwned My favorite part of this is where it says crazy people clinging to guns might be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:27 PM) My favorite part of this is where it says crazy people clinging to guns might be a problem. the only solution is a pre-emptive strike. preferably against veterans and the unemployed. oh and people with Ron Paul bumper stickers. JAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 This thread = epic win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 04:30 PM) the only solution is a pre-emptive strike. preferably against veterans and the unemployed. oh and people with Ron Paul bumper stickers. JAIL. Aw f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:31 PM) Aw f***. sorry lostfan, but a pre-emptive strike is a pre-emptive strike. we can't risk not taking action in these trying times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:31 PM) Aw f***. Double whammy for you. You had trouble peeling off that Ron Paul bumper sticker before you realized he was a whack job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 04:33 PM) sorry lostfan, but a pre-emptive strike is a pre-emptive strike. we can't risk not taking action in these trying times Meh I have pull. I can easily have them come after you instead. After all, I heard you say Obama wasn't the progressive leader you thought he was about a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 I feel uneasy about my "Dont Tread On Me" flag hanging up in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Meh I have pull. I can easily have them come after you instead. After all, I heard you say Obama wasn't the progressive leader you thought he was about a month ago. my account must have been hacked. wasn't me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 04:33 PM) Double whammy for you. You had trouble peeling off that Ron Paul bumper sticker before you realized he was a whack job. Yeah it baked itself into my bumper before I got it off. I ended up spraypainting over it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 04:36 PM) my account must have been hacked. wasn't me. Whoops I thought I was replying to BigSqwert. You'll be even easier to sic the dogs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) http://wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf pwned The article you posted said absolutely nothing of the magnitude of the claim you made. Your specific claim was that the government was putting all returning veterans on the terrorist watch list. First and foremost, that document doesn't mention the terrorist watch list a single time. I will excerpt for you every single block of text from it referring to military veterans. The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks. ... Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists. DHS/I&A is concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities. .... Disgruntled Military Veterans (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today. — (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing extremist groups. — (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the [u.S.] armed forces.” — (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups. Those are the segments that refer to military veterans. Please point out for me the text that says anything of the sort that you're claiming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:37 PM) The article you posted said absolutely nothing of the magnitude of the claim you made. Your specific claim was that the government was putting all returning veterans on the terrorist watch list. First and foremost, that document doesn't mention the terrorist watch list a single time. I will excerpt for you every single block of text from it referring to military veterans. Those are the segments that refer to military veterans. Please point out for me the text that says anything of the sort that you're claiming. that's what you call a reverse 360 pwned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 that's what you call a reverse 360 pwned *180 degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:37 PM) The article you posted said absolutely nothing of the magnitude of the claim you made. Your specific claim was that the government was putting all returning veterans on the terrorist watch list. First and foremost, that document doesn't mention the terrorist watch list a single time. I will excerpt for you every single block of text from it referring to military veterans. Those are the segments that refer to military veterans. Please point out for me the text that says anything of the sort that you're claiming. it's reporting that they are dangerous and need to be watched. if it said "Muslims" instead of "veterans" you would be going crazy about the injustice. then we would have a less hilarious thread about 'evil racism against muslims.' Nuke would probably return, only to get banned. It would be a complete fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 04:39 PM) that's what you call a reverse 360 pwned That ends up being pwnage back in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:39 PM) that's what you call a reverse 360 pwned the report specifically points them out repeatedly. you can email me at [email protected] if you wish to go over this more edit: and what is 360 pwned? just back to the start? Edited April 15, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 04:41 PM) it's reporting that they are dangerous and need to be watched. if it said "Muslims" instead of "veterans" you would be going crazy about the injustice. then we would have a less hilarious thread about 'evil racism against muslims.' Nuke would probably return, only to get banned. It would be a complete fiasco. Not to detract from the epic hilarity of this thread, but I'm going to vouch for that report. That's a pretty standard line to include in any report about right-wing extremists. Left-wing extremists have a whole other set of conditions that apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) That ends up being pwnage back in the same place. yeah i realized that after i hit send. was thinking of basketball slam dunk adjectives and didn't realize the implication of the 360. duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) the report specifically points them out repeatedly. you can email me at [email protected] if you wish to go over this more edit: and what is 360 pwned? just back to the start? You stated that all military veterans will be on the terrorist watch list. How is it that you can lie about that and claim you owned me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) yeah i realized that after i hit send. was thinking of basketball slam dunk adjectives and didn't realize the implication of the 360. duh duh. pwned. Now I feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) it's reporting that they are dangerous and need to be watched. Actually, it doesn't even say that. All it does is note that the last time there was a major domestic terrorist threat, it involved military veterans, and there are a large number of them now who could be potential recruit. Here is the actual block of text that includes the recommendations: Outlook (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that the combination of environmental factors that echo the 1990s, including heightened interest in legislation for tighter firearms restrictions and returning military veterans, as well as several new trends, including an uncertain economy and a perceived rising influence of other countries, may be invigorating rightwing extremist activity, specifically the white supremacist and militia movements. To the extent that these factors persist, rightwing extremism is likely to grow in strength. (U//FOUO) Unlike the earlier period, the advent of the Internet and other informationage technologies since the 1990s has given domestic extremists greater access to information related to bomb-making, weapons training, and tactics, as well as targeting of individuals, organizations, and facilities, potentially making extremist individuals and groups more dangerous and the consequences of their violence more severe. New technologies also permit domestic extremists to send and receive encrypted communications and to network with other extremists throughout the country and abroad, making it much more difficult for law enforcement to deter, prevent, or preempt a violent extremist attack. (U//FOUO) A number of law enforcement actions and external factors were effective in limiting the militia movement during the 1990s and could be utilized in today’s climate. — (U//FOUO) Following the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, the militia movement declined in total membership and in the number of organized groups because many members distanced themselves from the movement as a result of the intense scrutiny militias received after the bombing. — (U//FOUO) Militia membership continued to decline after the turn of the millennium as a result of law enforcement disruptions of multiple terrorist plots linked to violent rightwing extremists, new legislation banning paramilitary training, and militia frustration that the “revolution” never materialized. — (U//FOUO) Although the U.S. economy experienced a significant recovery and many perceived a concomitant rise in U.S. standing in the world, white supremacist groups continued to experience slight growth. ( U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization. Please again point out for me the text that says anything close to what you're claiming it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 01:44 PM) yeah i realized that after i hit send. was thinking of basketball slam dunk adjectives and didn't realize the implication of the 360. duh Can I jump over one of you while excerpting my next block of text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) yeah i realized that after i hit send. was thinking of basketball slam dunk adjectives and didn't realize the implication of the 360. duh Its 180, you spaghetti slurping cretin. 180!!! If I did a 360 I'd go all the way round and end up back where I started!!! Huh? Trust me. *BLAM* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 15, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) I'm going to vouch for that report. "Your compliance is noted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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