fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 02:28 AM) Do you really expect him to be sharp right now? He was out for 6 months then had less than half of spring training. He'll be fine as long as he stays healthy. He's having control problems. Looking at the teams he's going to be facing, how long do you give him to get into a groove? The thing is, it's probably a mute argument, as I can't see KW or Ozzie ever pulling him rotation unless he's hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Gross...should have never started this inning. His arm strength just isn't there right now, as he's been getting killed in the middle innings. Edited April 22, 2009 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxmanager Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 good thing we left him in..LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Why is Contreras still in this ballgame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Damn. Gotta keep it at 2 here. We can get to their bullpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Leave him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 12:04 PM) So I was going to go to this game but because my wife has other arrangements she made recently, I have to stick around so I can pick up my stepdaughter from her basketball game. The real question is, should I divorce my wife for hindering my ability to attend a Sox game? I won't divorce her, she saved me from having to watch this Jose start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 03:29 AM) Damn. Gotta keep it at 2 here. We can get to their bullpen. Yep, walk Markakis, and then turn two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 10:31 PM) Yep, walk Markakis, and then turn two If they were going to walk him, they would have left Jose in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 03:30 AM) I won't divorce her, she saved me from having to watch this Jose start. On the bright side, tonight made me realize how enjoyable it is to watch our other 4 starters. They work fast, have good poise, and almost always give us a chance to win. Should be a very consistent season for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 09:29 PM) Looking at the teams he's going to be facing, how long do you give him to get into a groove? The thing is, it's probably a mute argument, as I can't see KW or Ozzie ever pulling him rotation unless he's hurt. How many innings did he pitch during spring training? Considering he didn't throw off a mound until a little while before that and had not pitched since August, he's not going to be in mid season form. Maybe they should move him to the bullpen until he gets sharp, or maybe he gets his act together soon. I really don't know. All I know is its pretty unrealistic to thing he would be real sharp right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Um....there's an open base with a lefty on deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 03:32 AM) How many innings did he pitch during spring training? Considering he didn't throw off a mound until a little while before that and had not pitched since August, he's not going to be in mid season form. Maybe they should move him to the bullpen until he gets sharp, or maybe he gets his act together soon. I really don't know. All I know is its pretty unrealistic to thing he would be real sharp right now. Good stuff DA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I wonder how long the Contreras experiment will go on, I mean its only been 3 starts so im not overly worried right now.... but if after 3 more he still hasnt had a solid performance going to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 03:32 AM) Um....there's an open base with a lefty on deck. That's just terrible...you never, ever pitch to their best player in a situation like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 horrible decision to pitch to him....almost as bad as when we pitched to miguel cabrera with a base open last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Markakis owns us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxmanager Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 never ceases to amaze why a manager leaves a pitcher in to suffer. wtf? that is 1 game that goes in the what if category for the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (daa84 @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 10:34 PM) horrible decision to pitch to him....almost as bad as when we pitched to miguel cabrera with a base open last year I think we pitched to Vlad too in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxmanager Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 well the over under is 10.5. that is the only thing it could be...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (daa84 @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 02:34 AM) horrible decision to pitch to him....almost as bad as when we pitched to miguel cabrera with a base open last year When you're already losing, there's honestly no reason to pitch to him in that situation. Oh well, time to see what Clayton can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 and that makes the decision to pitch to markakis look even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxmanager @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 10:34 PM) never ceases to amaze why a manager leaves a pitcher in to suffer. wtf? that is 1 game that goes in the what if category for the end of the year. Gotta love how he induced the DP on the next batter, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hawk said you can't pitch around everybody. If Jerry Manuel pitched to Markakis and the same thing happened, 6 years later we would be hearing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Nice job getting the DP. Let's get to this bullpen. We need to string together some EXBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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