mr_genius Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 29, 2009 -> 06:22 PM) I seriously just ran into a lady at Walgreens wearing a face mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 29, 2009 -> 06:22 PM) I seriously just ran into a lady at Walgreens wearing a face mask. Perhaps, she was just robbing the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 29, 2009 -> 07:14 PM) Perhaps, she was just robbing the place. I thought that at first, until i realized she was pestering the check lady to find her more of them. It appears she went into walgreens and couldnt wait to purchase the mask before ripping open the package and putting it on. She apparently didnt feel very safe in there. I immediately thought about fake sneezing in her general direction, but thought better of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 guiz, i r scairt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Oh and I leave for Mexico in two weeks. In case you were wondering, there is a better chance of my plane crashing than me actually dying from Swine flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 29, 2009 -> 06:08 PM) Oh and I leave for Mexico in two weeks. In case you were wondering, there is a better chance of my plane crashing than me actually dying from Swine flu. For now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 29, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) Worth noting is my post earlier where I question the accuracy of the current published death rates. Your question is a legitimate one, according to this article: http://www.smh.com.au/world/only-7-swine-f...90429-aml1.html Take whatever figure is out there for the rate of death in Mexico after contracting swine flu and divide it by 21.7. It was ridiculous before, not it's just laughable. According to my mom, who's a nurse at a Chicago hospital, patients waiting in the ER are wearing masks now. Even doctors (not in surgery) and receptionists are wearing them. I can believe ordinary people overreacting, but it's unsettling that physicians -- people I'd expect to know a thing or two about illnesses -- are buying into this. It's just a random thought here, but has anyone looked into the possibility that maybe this flu has been around for awhile and we're only now identifying it? Hell, maybe there's a Fish Flu or Cow Flu that is out there, being mistaken for regular flu, but no one has identified it yet. Edited April 30, 2009 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Apr 29, 2009 -> 07:15 PM) It's just a random thought here, but has anyone looked into the possibility that maybe this flu has been around for awhile and we're only now identifying it? Hell, maybe there's a Fish Flu or Cow Flu that is out there, being mistaken for regular flu, but no one has identified it yet. We're actually fairly good at things like that. This is at some level a new strain...but that doesn't mean it appeared like magic out of no where. People are already tearing the thing apart, the closest thing to it that I've read about was an outbreak of a swine flu that infected 2 people (non-lethally) at a fair in Ohio in 2007, IIRC. What is almost certainly the case is that this bug is a mutant version of a previous bug. Things don't explode like this after hanging around for a few years...the immune systems of mammals adapt too quickly. It might have grabbed some gene from something else, it might have been hanging out in a population that Smithfield farms was dumping full of antibiotics, people are certainly working on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 A HS about a mile from here was closed today because a student has SF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 02:14 AM) A HS about a mile from here was closed today because a student has SF. Confirmed or someone went home sick withflu-like symptoms and they closed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I just read that the masks do nothing because the virus is too small to be filtered by them anyway... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 07:58 AM) I just read that the masks do nothing because the virus is too small to be filtered by them anyway... lol. Yeah, but they look cool!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 So, there is no correlation between pork, pork products, and pigs in general with the spread of swine flu, yet Egyptians killed 300k of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Contrast the dangers of over reacting to under reacting. I believe people are overlooking the costs of over reacting in terms of lost productivity, etc. But in terms of public health versus economics, it is easy to fall in the public health camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) Yeah, but they look cool!! If you like that Michael Jackson look. I think the US and global public health infrastructure responses have been measured and appropriate so far. If media response to the emerging pandemic is overblown. . . well that is par for the course for the media. CDC will have a cultured reference virus by next week and vaccine production facilities will be able to begin mass production of vaccine within a month. Even if widespread vaccination is not called for down the line, effort and money have to be put into ramping up for that potential now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Scientists see this flu strain as relatively mild In fact, the current outbreak of the H1N1 virus, which emerged in San Diego and southern Mexico late last month, may not even do as much damage as the run-of-the-mill flu outbreaks that occur each winter without much fanfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 09:49 AM) So, there is no correlation between pork, pork products, and pigs in general with the spread of swine flu, yet Egyptians killed 300k of them? lol. My co-worker just went on a rant about this. Saying how you can't catch it directly from a pig, and humans have a mutated version, so slaughter the people not the pigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This pisses me off. I don't want to Buster-ize this thread, but, I have to point this out. Joe Biden is telling people that they should avoid flying, and the subway, because of the swine flu. STFU Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 07:58 AM) I just read that the masks do nothing because the virus is too small to be filtered by them anyway... lol. The only ones that give some small protection are N95 rated respirators. They are very uncomfortable to wear and are more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'm wearing this to work today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 07:58 AM) I just read that the masks do nothing because the virus is too small to be filtered by them anyway... lol. I would think they'd be more effective in preventing you from spreading it to others since you won't be sneezing or coughing on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 11:16 AM) I would think they'd be more effective in preventing you from spreading it to others since you won't be sneezing or coughing on anything. FDA on Respirators CDC Respirators. and for your one stop shopping, the pandemic flu government website Pandemic Flu.gov Now of course jackass phishers and malware types are sending out swine flu spam and phishing emails because people are stupid. I had some lady call up screaming that she wanted her swine flu email that was blocked because it could be a health related emergency. The only emergency is that the woman is retarded. Edited April 30, 2009 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 08:50 AM) This pisses me off. I don't want to Buster-ize this thread, but, I have to point this out. Joe Biden is telling people that they should avoid flying, and the subway, because of the swine flu. STFU Joe. Normally my instinct would be to totally agree, but there's one thing that's bugging me; the WHO's decision to move to an alert that's 1 stage below calling it a full blown pandemic (the stage 5 thing they did yesterday). Given all the data that's publicly out there, the confirmed numbers of infected, the fact that they're trying to move the casualty numbers down and seemingly tell people it's not as scary as it's being made out to be, that's an official move in the opposite direction by an org that I'm hoping has at least some semblance of an idea of what they're doing, or at least which would be questioned loudly if they were obviously making a mistake. If they're moving the alert up when all the signals are saying "it doesn't look that bad right now", it kinda makes me wonder what they know that I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 09:49 AM) I think the US and global public health infrastructure responses have been measured and appropriate so far. If media response to the emerging pandemic is overblown. . . well that is par for the course for the media. QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 10:50 AM) This pisses me off. I don't want to Buster-ize this thread, but, I have to point this out. Joe Biden is telling people that they should avoid flying, and the subway, because of the swine flu. STFU Joe. LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 11:49 AM) Normally my instinct would be to totally agree, but there's one thing that's bugging me; the WHO's decision to move to an alert that's 1 stage below calling it a full blown pandemic (the stage 5 thing they did yesterday). Given all the data that's publicly out there, the confirmed numbers of infected, the fact that they're trying to move the casualty numbers down and seemingly tell people it's not as scary as it's being made out to be, that's an official move in the opposite direction by an org that I'm hoping has at least some semblance of an idea of what they're doing, or at least which would be questioned loudly if they were obviously making a mistake. If they're moving the alert up when all the signals are saying "it doesn't look that bad right now", it kinda makes me wonder what they know that I don't. I'm not saying that these organizations shouldn't be acting, or that there isn't risk. I'm saying that unless you have something that will make people drop by the thousands each week, you don't tell them to stop flying and stop commuting. The negative effect of that could be catastrophic on the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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