Rex Kickass Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=103694193 NPR has learned that Supreme Court Justice David Souter is planning to retire at the end of the court's current term. The court has completed hearing oral arguments for the year and will be issuing rulings and opinions until the end of June. Souter is expected to remain on the bench until a successor has been chosen and confirmed, which may or may not be accomplished before the court reconvenes in October. At 69, Souter is nowhere near the oldest member of the court, but he has made clear to friends for some time now that he wanted to leave Washington, a city he has never liked, and return to his native New Hampshire. Now, according to reliable sources, he has decided to take the plunge and has informed the White House of his decision. Souter's retirement would give President Obama his first appointment to the high court, and most observers expect that he will appoint a woman. The court currently has one female justice — Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is recovering from cancer surgery. Obama was elected with strong support from women. An Obama pick would be unlikely to change the ideological makeup of the court. Souter, though appointed by the first President Bush, generally votes with the more liberal members of the court, a group of four that is in a rather consistent minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You beat me to the post because Ray Allen just made a 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Btw, what a week. Swine Flu 100 days Arlen Specter Souter Bulls/Celtics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 I know. Kinda crazy. I think we could see two or three Obama appointments by the midterm elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 08:03 PM) I know. Kinda crazy. I think we could see two or three Obama appointments by the midterm elections. Isn't Stevens like shooting for the longest-serving-justice record or something like that? And here's the question now...how rapidly will the up or down vote, no filibusters except for the worst of the worst nominee rule go out the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Give me John Edwards.. oh wait... never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Here's what Redstate.org's Erick Erickson thinks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) Will GOP members flip-flop on Judiciary Filibuster: many of the Republicans who could play an obstructionist role are on the record decrying the use of the filibuster on judicial nominees. As collected by Media Matters Action Network, here are a few of those choice quotes that seem likely to be mentioned when (rather, if) a feisty Supreme Court fight emerges in the weeks or months ahead.Orrin Hatch (R-UT -- and Judiciary Committee member) "All we are asking is the 214-year tradition of the Senate that judicial nominees not be filibustered be followed..." [senate Floor Speech, 4/27/05] Chuck Grassley (R-IA -- and Judiciary Committee member) "History has proven the wisdom of having the President place judges with the support of the majority of the Senate.... The current obstruction led by Senate Democratic leaders threatens that balance. It's time to make sure all judges receive a fair vote on the Senate floor." [Grassley.Senate.gov, "Talking Judges to Death," 5/8/05] John Cornyn (R-TX -- and Judiciary Committee member) "I believe, about the process of reestablishing the precedent of majority rule that had prevailed for 214 years in the Senate, that would say any President's nominees, whether they be Republican or Democrat, if they have the support of a majority of the Senate, will get an up-or-down vote in the Senate. Senators who believe these nominees should be confirmed can vote for them and those who believe they should not be confirmed can vote against them." [senate Floor Speech, 5/24/05] Mitch McConnell (R-KY -- Senate Minority Leader) "Because of the unprecedented obstruction of our Democratic colleagues, the Republican conference intends to restore the principle that, regardless of party, any President's judicial nominees, after full debate, deserve a simple up-or-down vote." [senate Floor Speech, 5/19/05] My guess is Mitch McConnell will absolutely flip-flop. Edited May 1, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Will any nomination be referred to as a liberal jurist?......Or will they be centrists?.......I think I know the answer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ May 1, 2009 -> 02:08 PM) Will any nomination be referred to as a liberal jurist?......Or will they be centrists?.......I think I know the answer...... Because they probably are. We are a center-left country after all. And because the truth is, they may be to the left on social issues, but I'd wager Obama will continue the proud tradition of nominating justices with a proud tradition of protecting money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Is this a good example: 2003—Two years after being nominated to the Fifth Circuit, the eminently qualified Texas supreme court justice Priscilla Richman Owen encounters another step in the Democrats’ unprecedented campaign of obstruction against President Bush’s judicial nominees. The first of five Senate cloture votes on her nomination fails to obtain the necessary 60 votes for approval, as only two of 49 Democrats vote for cloture. Owen’s nomination is finally confirmed more than two years later (and more than four years from her initial nomination)—on May 25, 2005 No. I do not believe they will do anything close to what was practiced here and in many other cases involving Bush appointees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 There needs to be a mandatory IRS check before the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ May 1, 2009 -> 02:08 PM) Will any nomination be referred to as a liberal jurist?......Or will they be centrists?.......I think I know the answer...... He could nominate a centrist and you (conservatives) would still call the nominee a liberal judicial activist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2009 -> 11:56 AM) He could nominate a centrist and you (conservatives) would still call the nominee a liberal judicial activist. What we need is a Roberts...someone who can play the centrist in his confirmation hearings and make all the supposed moderates swoon but who gets on the court and instantly turns in to the farthest-left guy on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2009 -> 01:56 PM) He could nominate a centrist and you (conservatives) would still call the nominee a liberal judicial activist. Yup, and the other way around too. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2009 -> 01:57 PM) What we need is a Roberts...someone who can play the centrist in his confirmation hearings and make all the supposed moderates swoon but who gets on the court and instantly turns in to the farthest-left guy on there. I actually liked the Roberts nomination, and mostly still do now. He's been pretty much what he said he'd be. Alito, on the other hand, was and is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah I don't really have any issues with Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Ugh, Alito and Thomas. Haven't been a fan of SCOTUS since the 90s. I'm a Potter Stewart man, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ May 2, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) Ugh, Alito and Thomas. Haven't been a fan of SCOTUS since the 90s. I'm a Potter Stewart man, myself. Potter Stewart was a king. My favorite dissent of his was when he agreed individual state's could legally prohibit the use of contraceptives. That was true states' rights; not at all like the so-called states' rights people of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Anything dealing with private parts saw some ridiculously interesting opinions from Stewart. That's my main problem with Thomas and Alito, yeah, they are the most boneheaded, and I disagree with them on every decision, but at least Scalia has these fantastic dissenting opinions and opinions in general, Thomas and Alito are just boring. Thomas might be illiterate for all I know. SO here's a debate question, dudes and ladies: It's come up before, do you think this next supreme court justice should be a judge? And if not, since we are more familiar with non-judicial nominees, who would be your pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ May 2, 2009 -> 04:34 PM) Anything dealing with private parts saw some ridiculously interesting opinions from Stewart. That's my main problem with Thomas and Alito, yeah, they are the most boneheaded, and I disagree with them on every decision, but at least Scalia has these fantastic dissenting opinions and opinions in general, Thomas and Alito are just boring. Thomas might be illiterate for all I know. SO here's a debate question, dudes and ladies: It's come up before, do you think this next supreme court justice should be a judge? And if not, since we are more familiar with non-judicial nominees, who would be your pick? I think it absolutely should be a judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 It should be the best person for the job. I HATE it that it "has to be a woman, black, woman, hispanic, woman, minority, did I say some kind of minority"? That's bulls***. Pick the best person for the job from the legal perspective. But, as always, it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 2, 2009 -> 06:52 PM) It should be the best person for the job. I HATE it that it "has to be a woman, black, woman, hispanic, woman, minority, did I say some kind of minority"? That's bulls***. Pick the best person for the job from the legal perspective. But, as always, it won't be. Just last week, the Supreme Court took up a case of a 14 year old girl who was strip searched looking for the evil that is ibuprofen. So you had 8 men and 1 woman sitting there hearing about this little girl having to take her clothes off while other people watched. The one woman was actually basically the only one with any perspective on it, and it just went over the heads of the rest. There are what, probably 500 or so people, maybe 250, in the country who you could easily argue are qualified. But when you have a court that only represents 25% of America...that court isn't going to have the perspective on other issues that by all accounts it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2009 -> 09:39 PM) Just last week, the Supreme Court took up a case of a 14 year old girl who was strip searched looking for the evil that is ibuprofen. So you had 8 men and 1 woman sitting there hearing about this little girl having to take her clothes off while other people watched. The one woman was actually basically the only one with any perspective on it, and it just went over the heads of the rest. There are what, probably 500 or so people, maybe 250, in the country who you could easily argue are qualified. But when you have a court that only represents 25% of America...that court isn't going to have the perspective on other issues that by all accounts it should. I thought the Supreme Court was about interpreting laws, not perspective on issues? I thought the issues were supposed to be decided by the legislative branch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2009 -> 07:51 PM) I thought the Supreme Court was about interpreting laws, not perspective on issues? I thought the issues were supposed to be decided by the legislative branch? Then it's time to tear up that old Constitution and replace the vagueness of so much of it with a 300000 page specific document spelling out in exacting detail what should be done in every single case. Otherwise, there's going to be interpretation and perspective in everything...because what one person considers to be a vital right may be something that 8 other men simply can't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2009 -> 09:58 PM) Then it's time to tear up that old Constitution and replace the vagueness of so much of it with a 300000 page specific document spelling out in exacting detail what should be done in every single case. Otherwise, there's going to be interpretation and perspective in everything...because what one person considers to be a vital right may be something that 8 other men simply can't understand. Everything's all touchy, feely, emotion. The constitution is not supposed to be a touchy, feely document. It is set up to govern our country, not tackle the emotional aspect of every goddamn problem that faces our country. It's a f***ing insult to sit there and say "8 men can't understand". Do you know how moronish that statement is? If there was a law broken for that poor girl, then let the law stand for itself, not the emotion of it. That's absolutely the problem with liberals and really pisses me off. Sure, I care. Sure I want justice. But not based on some emotional outlook. If we govern every issue based on emotion, it's no wonder there's the politicization there is, because you cannot fairly judge law that way. In a court setting, the lawyer's job is to make people understand the emotion behind it and the related legal arguments to those emotions, if you will. That includes "8 men" on the Surpreme Court. Their job is then to interpret the law, not their damn emotions behind the law. PERIOD. Everything else is a blatent disrespect of our Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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