Texsox Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:17 PM) I'm sorry if I don't find an "empathic", racist, and socialist, judge who had to "struggle" to where she is now as qualified. This is nice, she quoted a socialist in her college yearbook: http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/20...t-yearbook.html "I am not a champion of lost causes, but of causes not yet won." Yeah, do you know the cause Norman Thomas was fighting for? Yeah, it was for America to be be socialist! I highly recommend reading this article I am posting. You can't really say it any better than this: http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowel...pathy_in_action Wow. I can't count the number of quotes I have referenced without ever delving into the background of the person. I may be a communist, mass murderer and not even know it. Kudos to you for being so careful about what quotes you use. That takes a level of dedication beyond what 99% of the planet would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 28, 2009 -> 02:22 AM) I didn't explain myself very well, lf. This is actually something I would like to expand on so that I can tie the point together. Maybe when I get back, unless I get some time while in Houston, but somehow I doubt it. I think I know what you're saying and what I'm trying to say. You're talking about judges, for lack of a better word, changing the actual meaning of the Constitution. That's not what I mean. I'll have to give examples and explain it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 An articulate, thoughtful view on the Sotomayor nomination and pending confirmation hearings from a leading Republican strategist; a breath of fresh air given the vitriol being spewed by the likes of Rush, Newt and Ann: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/28/rol...ayor/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ May 28, 2009 -> 10:57 AM) An articulate, thoughtful view on the Sotomayor nomination and pending confirmation hearings from a leading Republican strategist; a breath of fresh air given the vitriol being spewed by the likes of Rush, Newt and Ann: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/28/rol...ayor/index.html That's about par for Rollins, he is definitely a Republican and supports all the basic principles but he's never been one to get into the fistfights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 This should get some fun replies: Left Wing suddenly realizes Sotomayor hasn't issued any opinions on abortion, doesn't have obvious record indicating she's pro-choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 hahaha No one thought that a Catholic Spanish judge may not be pro-choice? Obama should have consulted his teleprompter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Even if she is pro-life, that doesn't mean she's gonna vote in that direction. Nancy Pelosi is "pro-life" after all. However, it'd be nice if Sotomayor became like the anti-Souter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 28, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) Even if she is pro-life, that doesn't mean she's gonna vote in that direction. Nancy Pelosi is "pro-life" after all. However, it'd be nice if Sotomayor became like the anti-Souter. She has too many feelings to be anything like an anti-Souter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I remember when Souter picked up the cherry with his buttcheeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Between Newt Gingrich calling her un-American and Rush Limbaugh comparing her to David Duke, you'd think it'd be hard to determine a winner for the most patently offensive statement so far from the right wing about Justice Sotomayor. But no, pardoned criminal G. Gordon Liddy has a solid grip on that position for now. H. Christ man, do you actually listen to the bile that spews from your mouth? I'm not even going to blockquote his words, take a look at the hyperlink if you want to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) Between Newt Gingrich calling her un-American and Rush Limbaugh comparing her to David Duke, you'd think it'd be hard to determine a winner for the most patently offensive statement so far from the right wing about Justice Sotomayor. But no, pardoned criminal G. Gordon Liddy has a solid grip on that position for now. H. Christ man, do you actually listen to the bile that spews from your mouth? I'm not even going to blockquote his words, take a look at the hyperlink if you want to figure it out. What stellar commentary by a man that appears to be a penis with a mustache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) Between Newt Gingrich calling her un-American and Rush Limbaugh comparing her to David Duke, you'd think it'd be hard to determine a winner for the most patently offensive statement so far from the right wing about Justice Sotomayor. But no, pardoned criminal G. Gordon Liddy has a solid grip on that position for now. H. Christ man, do you actually listen to the bile that spews from your mouth? I'm not even going to blockquote his words, take a look at the hyperlink if you want to figure it out. Whenever I see someone that over-the-top in their hatred of some specific group, it seems painfully obvious to me they have some issues of their own to work out in that dynamic. Someone who looks upon women in such a foul way, most likely is either a repressed gay man, or someone who feels great fear about women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) Whenever I see someone that over-the-top in their hatred of some specific group, it seems painfully obvious to me they have some issues of their own to work out in that dynamic. Someone who looks upon women in such a foul way, most likely is either a repressed gay man, or someone who feels great fear about women. I also like how he calls the Spanish language "Illegal alien". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:22 PM) I also like how he calls the Spanish language "Illegal alien". Maybe he was abused by a hispanic woman as a child. Whatever, someone says something that hateful, they deserve to simply be ignored by thinking people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:24 PM) Maybe he was abused by a hispanic woman as a child. Whatever, someone says something that hateful, they deserve to simply be ignored by thinking people. This nomination is really exposing the battle in the Republican side. On one hand, Limbaugh and Gingrich are out there saying she's a racist, she should withdraw her name, she's a reverse-david-duke, etc. On the other hand, John Cornyn, Michael Steele, and a few others are literally saying they're going to far and it really is going to hurt them long term. The battle lines between the people who'd like to win an election at some point in the next decade and the Limbaugh side really is flaring up hard over this nomination. It'll be interesting to see if Cornyn (head of the Republican Senate Campaign Committee, thus a guy who needs Limbaugh et al.'s help for fundraising) will be out apologizing and kowtowing soon, or if he stays the course on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 05:50 PM) This nomination is really exposing the battle in the Republican side. On one hand, Limbaugh and Gingrich are out there saying she's a racist, she should withdraw her name, she's a reverse-david-duke, etc. On the other hand, John Cornyn, Michael Steele, and a few others are literally saying they're going to far and it really is going to hurt them long term. The battle lines between the people who'd like to win an election at some point in the next decade and the Limbaugh side really is flaring up hard over this nomination. It'll be interesting to see if Cornyn (head of the Republican Senate Campaign Committee, thus a guy who needs Limbaugh et al.'s help for fundraising) will be out apologizing and kowtowing soon, or if he stays the course on this one. None of the actual Republican elected officials, or people with an interest in one day holding office (except possibly Gingrich) have really said anything over the line because they know full well what the score of the game is. They criticize her pretty hard, but it's all on merit and political views. Saying something out-and-out racist towards Hispanics is just not what the Republican party needs to be doing so to their credit, they know it. The rest of the talking heads and general population of far-right loonies don't really see how they're hurting anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 On the subject of Sotomayor and racism I really like this woman. She also wrote a great article a couple of weeks ago that convinced me to be tired of federal judges always getting nominated over the entire rest of the legal field (state judges and Supreme Courts, federal prosecutors, defense attorneys, politicians, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Well, if I ever end up in court I will demand a judge that is Irish/German, from the southside of chicago, has an advanced degree in the mathematical sciences, and roots for the White Sox. No one else can understand my struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 29, 2009 -> 06:24 PM) Well, if I ever end up in court I will demand a judge that is Irish/German, from the southside of chicago, has an advanced degree in the mathematical sciences, and roots for the White Sox. No one else can understand my struggle. Kill whitey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2009 -> 06:29 PM) Kill whitey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Forget the David Duke comments, however, she does base in part her opinions on "reverse-discrimination" (it's bad term - too cliche but I get why it's being used). You can't deny it. However, if I'm a betting person, and I don't know because I don't listen, I bet Limbaugh was saying that if she were a Republican, she would get painted like David Duke, which is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:54 PM) Forget the David Duke comments, however, she does base in part her opinions on "reverse-discrimination" (it's bad term - too cliche but I get why it's being used). You can't deny it. I'd like to hear you back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 If she was a conservative Hispanic judge, and she had the same out-of-context quote mined in the same manner? The reaction would probably be pretty similar to what it is now. Gingrich et. al. are making it sound like she said "Latinas > old white crackers" which she did not. You'd probably have random liberal personalities doing the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. Kinda pointless to talk about really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 06:56 PM) I'd like to hear you back it up. The New Haven case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 29, 2009 -> 08:00 PM) The New Haven case. Meh either you agree with it on that affirmative action basis or you don't. People who agree with it defend it, people don't agree with it hate it. Again not a big deal or something that should be expected to be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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