Steve9347 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 I am saddened by this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 The Hall of Fame keeps getting emptier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yeah this is nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Holy s***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I don't get it. Is there a reason he would be positive now rather than in previous seasons? If he's going to take something, why would he take something on the banned list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ May 7, 2009 -> 07:16 AM) I don't get it. Is there a reason he would be positive now rather than in previous seasons? If he's going to take something, why would he take something on the banned list? Â maybe the test got better. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ramirez is expected to attribute the test results to medication received from a doctor for a personal medical issue, according to a source familiar with matter but not authorized to speak publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 What a heartbreaker, I was a big Manny fan and thought he was clean. What's clear now is that PED users WEREN'T gaining a competitive edge, because EVERYBODY was on the stuff. It's simply being ignorant to assume anybody was clean, even Thome, Frank, and Junior. They are all guility until proven innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 why are people surprised at this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 7, 2009 -> 05:19 AM) Ramirez is expected to attribute the test results to medication received from a doctor for a personal medical issue, according to a source familiar with matter but not authorized to speak publicly. Which of course is something we've never heard before and is totally believable. Â Next we'll hear that he got a B-12 shot from someone else in the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Wait, I can't believe someone from those Boston's teams was on PEDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 That's it! I'm f***ing done! Albert Pujols? I know this isn't fair. But I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that he's a cheater as well. Why the hell not at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 7, 2009 -> 08:22 AM) That's it! I'm f***ing done! Albert Pujols? I know this isn't fair. But I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that he's a cheater as well. Why the hell not at this point? Â Did Jose Canseco say he was? I honestly don't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 I believe that Manny has been screwed over by his doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunnigan Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Frank is now the clear cut best hitter in the 90's (along with JR.), even if there wasn't any question about him being the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWin Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Too bad Manny still isn't on the Red Sox. It would have been funny to watch the guys over on BBT cry over one of the major beloved Red Sox players being guilty of steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 7, 2009 -> 07:23 AM) I believe that Manny has been screwed over by his doctor. Â I believe he was cheating just like every other player in baseball. It's almost hard to even call it cheating anymore since everybody was on it, sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (Nunnigan @ May 7, 2009 -> 07:25 AM) Frank is now the clear cut best hitter in the 90's (along with JR.), even if there wasn't any question about him being the best... Â Whose to say he wasn't on steroids too? Everything we saw seems to be a farce anyways, nothing would surprise me anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 What the f***. Why was this not on ESPN thsi morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ May 7, 2009 -> 07:23 AM) Did Jose Canseco say he was? I honestly don't remember. Â Doesn't matter. I've had it with this s***. Pujols? Howard? Braun? Cabrera? I'm just going to automatically assume that at some point they cheated. No more benefit of the doubt crap anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ May 7, 2009 -> 05:23 AM) Did Jose Canseco say he was? I honestly don't remember. Read through the actual LA Times article. In an appearance at USC last month, Jose Canseco said Ramirez's name "is most likely, 90%" on a list of 104 players that failed a drug test in 2003. The players were promised anonymity for taking tests in 2003; Rodriguez is the only player that has been identified among that group. Ramirez laughed when Times columnist Kurt Streeter relayed Canseco's allegation to him.  "I got no comment, nothing to say about that," Ramirez told Streeter. "What can I say? I don't even know the guy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 7, 2009 -> 05:26 AM) What the f***. Why was this not on ESPN thsi morning? The timestamp on the LAT article posting is 34 minutes before I send this post in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 7, 2009 -> 08:26 AM) Whose to say he wasn't on steroids too? Everything we saw seems to be a farce anyways, nothing would surprise me anymore. Â The only reason I trust Frank is because he was the only guy to talk to Congress about it voluntarily. Thomas, Jr., and Thome are about the only guys I hold out hope for. And if they come out as PED users, then I'll be sad, although it wouldn't entirely surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2009 -> 05:28 AM) The timestamp on the LAT article posting is 34 minutes before I send this post in. I just realized the clocks on the board are f'd up. s***, insane. I wub Manny too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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