Baines3 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 We have everything to gain by getting Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) If KW went into this without thinking he'd have to pick up the option then he wasn't thinking things through. There are certain players the organization is willing to make a leap for, and Peavy is one of them. exactly. If this rumor is true then it's done either way. If he's been working on this for as long as some say it probably crept into his and the owners minds that this was going to be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:12 PM) Think Corky will give up his number? That may be the sticking point. I'd prefer to give up Corky all together. Let him be Peavy's personal servant or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Maybe add another year to the contract and hold the salary at $18MM for 2012,2013, and 2014? Still alot of money but the only way that we can reduce the annual amount is to add more time and guranteed money. An extension can always be worked out later as well to reduce the Sox obligation for 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Obama's a Sox fan....can't he just give the team a $22 miilion bailout to get this deal done?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Has a player ever waited this long to make this decision. zoinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:16 PM) I'd prefer to give up Corky all together. Let him be Peavy's personal servant or something. can we throw corky and henry blanco in the deal too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:14 PM) Unless as someone else stated, it's a PR move by Kenny to show the fans he's "trying". If this were a PR move, this is bad PR. I will be pretty pissed when/if Peavy rejects this. This is a f***ing cocktease and whoever let this leak better not be Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Baines3 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:14 PM) We have everything to gain by getting Peavy. Like an extra point and a half on his ERA once he leaves Petco and comes to the AL at the cell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:16 PM) Obama's a Sox fan....can't he just give the team a $22 miilion bailout to get this deal done?? I approve this message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 11:12 AM) He'll be making 17 million guaranteed no matter what in 3 years anyway. It's a lot of money, but if you want a true ace, that's the price you have to pay now a days. Considering that Dye, Konerko, Thome, Contreras, A.J., Linebrink, and Dotel will be off the books towards the end of Peavy's contract, it's not a question of whether or not the Sox can afford his contract with the option year. It's a question of whether or not Kenny wants to commit that kind of money to a guy with 1300 innings on his arm. I'd be more worried about his long-term duability than the money. You can always trade a healthy pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) If this were a PR move, this is bad PR. I will be pretty pissed when/if Peavy rejects this. This is a f***ing cocktease and whoever let this leak better not be Kenny. The original source was out of San Diego, so it was most likely a Pads exec or player that first got this out in the open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) Has a player ever waited this long to make this decision. zoinks McGriff with the Cubs, Giles with the Red Sox last year, Schilling at one point... Peavy isn't even taking that long and it seems like he's made it, option and some trips to Chicago for his family (my guess at the other "sweets" he wants) and its yes, no option, then no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:18 PM) Like an extra point and a half on his ERA once he leaves Petco and comes to the AL at the cell? But we'll be losing all that money to pay him, so it washes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:18 PM) Like an extra point and a half on his ERA once he leaves Petco and comes to the AL at the cell? Scott Linebrink.. Prime Example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) If this were a PR move, this is bad PR. I will be pretty pissed when/if Peavy rejects this. This is a f***ing cocktease and whoever let this leak better not be Kenny. Yeah, this wouldn't be a PR move. There is way too much risk in Peavy declining. It basically says "hey world, the White Sox suck!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Went to lunch...anything new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 11:12 AM) He'll be making 17 million guaranteed no matter what in 3 years anyway. It's a lot of money, but if you want a true ace, that's the price you have to pay now a days. Considering that Dye, Konerko, Thome, Contreras, A.J., Linebrink, and Dotel will be off the books towards the end of Peavy's contract, it's not a question of whether or not the Sox can afford his contract with the option year. It's a question of whether or not Kenny wants to commit that kind of money to a guy with 1300 innings on his arm. I'd be more worried about his long-term duability than the money. You can always trade a healthy pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:18 PM) Like an extra point and a half on his ERA once he leaves Petco and comes to the AL at the cell?How do pitchers like Buehrle and 2008 Floyd and Danks and 2005 Contreras and most of our bullpen and so on succeed here, then? Would they all have ERAs below 2 in the NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:18 PM) Like an extra point and a half on his ERA once he leaves Petco and comes to the AL at the cell? but if the other teams pitcher pitches at the cell too, so it evens out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (almagest @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:20 PM) How do pitchers like Buehrle and 2008 Floyd and Danks and 2005 Contreras and most of our bullpen and so on succeed here, then? Would they all have ERAs below 2 in the NL? Floyd sucked in the NL... Oh wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:19 PM) Went to lunch...anything new? there was an update that Peavy wants the option picked up as a starter, which I would imagine would be trips to Chicago for his family, etc. and someone said Peavy didn't show up to a Pads gym or something (that was out of SD) Edited May 21, 2009 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (almagest @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:20 PM) How do pitchers like Buehrle and 2008 Floyd and Danks and 2005 Contreras and most of our bullpen and so on succeed here, then? Would they all have ERAs below 2 in the NL? Look at how good Zito, Hudson, and Mulder were when they went to the NL. Sure, there is something to the ERA goes up in the AL, that'll happen when you face no pitchers, but a lot is being made out of nothing. In the end, it was about green, and the Sox had to know it'd come to that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:21 PM) there was an update that Peavy wants the option picked up as a starter, which I would imagine would be trips to Chicago for his family, etc. and someone said Peavy didn't show up to a Pads gym or something (that was out of SD) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 If we had put a good showing today against the Twins, I would have to imagine that could have helped a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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