TitoMB345 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 If this deal falls through because the Sox aren't willing to guarantee the final year... ugh. As a fan, I say get this deal done, no matter the cost, and move on from there. It's not every day you have the opportunity to bring in a solid ace to anchor your rotation around for the next 3-4 years. Peavy would be a huge boost to our team, and our fan base. Do it, Kenny. Just do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:27 PM) Lets start a thread! I'm In! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:27 PM) Can someone summarize briefly these three points so I don't have to sift through 71 pages: 1) what is the likely package we are giving up? 2) what aspects of this trade would be attractive to peavy, beyond one-time recent world series winner with a mostly different core of players now? 3) has anyone given any indication as to how long he plans to mull this over? 1. We don't know, but it involves Poreda and Richard. 2. Money 3. No, but the Sox want an answer today because he is supposed to pitch tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 MY GAWD JAKE....MAKE A f***ING DECISION...I f***ING LOVE YOU...JAY CUTLER LOVES YOU...THE SAN DIEGO ZOO IS OVERRATED I WAS JUST THERE...NICK SWISHER ISNT HERE...WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:29 PM) Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Even with Peavy, we still have a ton of holes. I really hope he declines this deal. This deal isn't just for this year. It's for the next 4. And with the players in AA coming up soon, I think it's a deal that has to be made if given the opportunity. This isn't a mid-season, lets see if we can win this year...it's a early season pickup in a winnable division that will help the team for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ May 21, 2009 -> 06:29 PM) If this deal falls through because the Sox aren't willing to guarantee the final year... ugh. As a fan, I say get this deal done, no matter the cost, and move on from there. It's not every day you have the opportunity to bring in a solid ace to anchor your rotation around for the next 3-4 years. Peavy would be a huge boost to our team, and our fan base. Do it, Kenny. Just do it. That 22 million is way, way too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 OK, so the Sox have roughly 40 mil coming off the books this offseason and they have guys they have to reup with, etc... so adding Peavy and let's say 10 m in new salary they still have 12 m in flex, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:27 PM) Can someone summarize briefly these three points so I don't have to sift through 71 pages: 1) what is the likely package we are giving up? 2) what aspects of this trade would be attractive to peavy, beyond one-time recent world series winner with a mostly different core of players now? 3) has anyone given any indication as to how long he plans to mull this over? 1) Poreda, Richard, and two lower-value prospect 2) Peavy has come back and asked for his 2013 option to be picked up ($22 million) and for the limited no-trade to be extended throughout the life of the contract 3) Should have a decision today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (shipps @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:30 PM) MY GAWD JAKE....MAKE A f***ING DECISION...I f***ING LOVE YOU...JAY CUTLER LOVES YOU...THE SAN DIEGO ZOO IS OVERRATED I WAS JUST THERE...NICK SWISHER ISNT HERE...WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED... I respectfully disagree. The San Diego zoo has the cute chick with the parrot that talks to AC Slater on "Pet Star." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Broadway is/was one of the pitchers being discussed. http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...nt-9274/?padres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:29 PM) Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Even with Peavy, we still have a ton of holes. I really hope he declines this deal. It's not like Peavy will be a FA after this year. We'll have him until at least 2013, and most of the players we are planning on filling holes on the roster with are in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) That 22 million is way, way too much. It's 22 million for ONE year. I'm perfectly okay with it. If it were 22 million per year, then we'd have a wayyy different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 21, 2009 -> 06:31 PM) This deal isn't just for this year. It's for the next 4. And with the players in AA coming up soon, I think it's a deal that has to be made if given the opportunity. This isn't a mid-season, lets see if we can win this year...it's a early season pickup in a winnable division that will help the team for years to come. And what in the last 2 decade of Sox baseball has made you think our players from the minors will be close to above average in their first 2-3 years? I love Slayer more than anyone, but there will be a learning curve for these guys I'm sure. I just worry about our offense the next couple of years, and would rather we use more of the money to get a leadoff hitter, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (shipps @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:30 PM) MY GAWD JAKE....MAKE A f***ING DECISION...I f***ING LOVE YOU...JAY CUTLER LOVES YOU...THE SAN DIEGO ZOO IS OVERRATED I WAS JUST THERE...NICK SWISHER ISNT HERE...WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED... lol, it seems that he made it, if Sox pay he's on the mound against Pit this weekend Edited May 21, 2009 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ May 21, 2009 -> 11:29 AM) If this deal falls through because the Sox aren't willing to guarantee the final year... ugh. As a fan, I say get this deal done, no matter the cost, and move on from there. It's not every day you have the opportunity to bring in a solid ace to anchor your rotation around for the next 3-4 years. Peavy would be a huge boost to our team, and our fan base. Do it, Kenny. Just do it. Unless Peavy insists on a full NTC through the remainder of his deal, I agree. Salary-wise, the Sox would be basically giving Peavy a little less than what Thome and Dye are currently making. And as much as I like Thome and Dye, a legitimate shut-down ace is more valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ May 21, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) I respectfully disagree. The San Diego zoo has the cute chick with the parrot that talks to AC Slater on "Pet Star." So if we can get the cute chick and the parrot transferred to Brookfield zoo....do you think the deal is done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:29 PM) Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Even with Peavy, we still have a ton of holes. I really hope he declines this deal. fathom, you know as well as i do though that this deal wouldn't really be a deal for just 2009....it puts another stud pitcher at the top of KWs three year board....your 1-4 is basically set for the next 4 years, and you can work from there...especially if we can add one bat via free agency and develop another bat or two (beckham, flowers, allen, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) That 22 million is way, way too much. would you feel different if the Pads sent 4-5 mil back so the average salary is about the same through 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ May 21, 2009 -> 11:32 AM) I respectfully disagree. The San Diego zoo has the cute chick with the parrot that talks to AC Slater on "Pet Star." It's overpriced ($35 per day), but not at all overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:34 PM) So if we can get the cute chick and the parrot transferred to Brookfield zoo....do you think the deal is done? If it were me, then yes. Definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:33 PM) And what in the last 2 decade of Sox baseball has made you think our players from the minors will be close to above average in their first 2-3 years? I love Slayer more than anyone, but there will be a learning curve for these guys I'm sure. I just worry about our offense the next couple of years, and would rather we use more of the money to get a leadoff hitter, etc. Yeah, I'd rather have Figgins than Peavy also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:33 PM) Unless Peavy insists on a full NTC through the remainder of his deal, I agree. I agree with that too. A full NTC is just too risky for a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:29 PM) Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Even with Peavy, we still have a ton of holes. I really hope he declines this deal. LOL, you dont think the Sox could come back from a 6 game deficit with not even 1/4 of the season over? Hilarious. Why DO you watch the White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:35 PM) It's overpriced ($35 per day), but not at all overrated. The zoo's we have here in Chicago are better and I am usually quick too take a s*** on anything we have here over anything in California so thats saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Broadway is/was one of the pitchers being discussed. http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...nt-9274/?padres He's pitching right now so obviously they aren't being careful with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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