Leonard Zelig Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) That's what I don't understand. If he's willing to play for the Cubs or Brewers, why would he even have to think about the White Sox. It makes you wonder if he truely is an "ace". If he says yes, its KW's best trade IMO. If he says no, good riddance. I'm actually shocked that they have agreed to a deal if they actually have. If Peavy says no, KW is going to have to do a lot of backpedaling when talking about finances. I'm sure he'll give the line JR was willing to bust the budget by $10 million to get the "right guy". The right guy being a guy who is hesitant to pitch in the AL. Is he supposed to add $10M for the wrong guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 So if they've agreed, why cant we hear who the players are? Poreda Richard Alexei? Getz? Allen? Flowers? We know Flowers was a player they wanted from the Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Maverick0984 @ May 21, 2009 -> 10:26 AM) About a dozen people have posted that the trade is "done" and we're waiting for Peavy to agree, we get it....stop posting the same info Wait. Hold Up. Did someone just say that this trade is done and we're waiting approval from Peavy. WHATTTTTTT!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:27 AM) The reporter on the SCORE was very interesting. He basically said that Peavy will do what is in the best interest of the Padres and does not want to leave. He sounds even more low key than Buerhle. What's in the best interest for the Padres is for them to receive some prospects and help them for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) That's what I don't understand. If he's willing to play for the Cubs or Brewers, why would he even have to think about the White Sox. It makes you wonder if he truely is an "ace". If he says yes, its KW's best trade IMO. If he says no, good riddance. I'm actually shocked that they have agreed to a deal if they actually have. If Peavy says no, KW is going to have to do a lot of backpedaling when talking about finances. I'm sure he'll give the line JR was willing to bust the budget by $10 million to get the "right guy". The right guy being a guy who is hesitant to pitch in the AL. Was there any guy in FA FWIW that you would have given $10M to? Peavy's a franchise pitcher. You don't get the chance to acquire a pitcher like him, especially when you consider how much a team like the Yankees would have given him if he hit free agency in the past off-season (think Sabathia money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I love it when everyone analyzes and looking at some of these posts and all the othr trade speculation when it started out as Jake Peavy. Wow! That's al I can say. Maybe we should calm down here and think one thing through at a time. Peavy doesn't like Ozzie Guillen for some reason so that is going to be the possible hang up on this deal. We are giving up a lot of talent, but can get one of the best so I think it might be worth it. Maybe to entice Jake to come to the Southside we can Ozzie though? Edited May 21, 2009 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:28 AM) So if they've agreed, why cant we hear who the players are? Poreda Richard Alexei? Getz? Allen? Flowers? We know Flowers was a player they wanted from the Braves. I would hope they could spare the hitting prospects, but if they had to I would give up Allen. First baseman are easier to find than catchers (even though I think Flowers moves). I think Getz, Allen, Poreda, Richard would be a lot to give up, but wouldn't set us back at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:27 AM) They are expecting a quick decision, which I think means a no, "im too big of a pussy to pitch to DH's" If thats the case I don't want him than anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Olney on Sportscenter right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 im hearing he wouldnt want to play for ozzie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (robinventura23 @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) What's in the best interest for the Padres is for them to receive some prospects and help them for the future. Exactly, and I hope the Pads ownership sits down with him, says this is the best deal they could get and pack his bags. I still want to see who is included because I know the names are going to sting to alot of people on here. And when I say sting, im not talking about watching Cunningham rob fly balls in the outfield sting, but a top prospect, how could they let him go type of sting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Peavey is probably still in bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 If KW gets Peavy, i want a Mea Culpa from all the posters who were talking s*** about KW's desire to compete. Their's no doubt that he's made mistakes, but the guy hates to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wow. If this was the Red Sox or Yankees getting Peavy, this would be all the talk on SC. Right now, it's 30 seconds from Buster Olney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:28 AM) So if they've agreed, why cant we hear who the players are? Not a great idea if it doesn't go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:30 AM) I would hope they could spare the hitting prospects, but if they had to I would give up Allen. First baseman are easier to find than catchers (even though I think Flowers moves). I think Getz, Allen, Poreda, Richard would be a lot to give up, but wouldn't set us back at all. The Pads need a SS, would you give up Alexei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:28 AM) Is he supposed to add $10M for the wrong guy? My whole point being if the guy is even moderately hesitant to pitch in the AL, is he the guy you want to give all this money to? As I said, if he comes here, IMO its KW best move, if he doesn't he obviously wasn't the "right guy" which is the spin KW is going to put on the White Sox willing to add payroll, because IIRC KW was talking about playing day games to save on the electric bill when he was crying about being broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 21, 2009 -> 10:33 AM) Not a great idea if it doesn't go through. Yep, isn't this exactly what happened with Jay Cutler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 FWIW as it is a SMALL sample (1 or 2 starts vs each team), here is his career numbers vs AL Central MIN - 2 starts - 2.84 ERA KC - 2 starts - 5.40 ERA DET - 1 start - 4.50 ERA CLE - 2 starts - 5.91 ERA Most of these starts are scattered across his career as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:33 AM) The Pads need a SS, would you give up Alexei? No. He is cheap and controlled for awhile. He also, as we have seen, has all the talent in the world and is going to start hitting soon. He will be fine, but he is too talented and way too cheap to trade, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) Was there any guy in FA FWIW that you would have given $10M to? Peavy's a franchise pitcher. You don't get the chance to acquire a pitcher like him, especially when you consider how much a team like the Yankees would have given him if he hit free agency in the past off-season (think Sabathia money). Exactly! This is similar to the Bears getting Cutler. You don't pass up the chance to get a franchise quarterback in/or entering his prime and you don't pass up the chance to get a former Cy Young winning franchise pitcher. If he says no, hey, you tried. But, I'm not just going to say, "OK, who's next, we have this money slotted to go to Peavy, he didn't want it, I'll give it to the next pitcher available." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) Was there any guy in FA FWIW that you would have given $10M to? Peavy's a franchise pitcher. You don't get the chance to acquire a pitcher like him, especially when you consider how much a team like the Yankees would have given him if he hit free agency in the past off-season (think Sabathia money). Its a lot more than $10. I'm just thinking this year. KW only has $.50 remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) If KW gets Peavy, i want a Mea Culpa from all the posters who were talking s*** about KW's desire to compete. Their's no doubt that he's made mistakes, but the guy hates to lose. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) If KW gets Peavy, i want a Mea Culpa from all the posters who were talking s*** about KW's desire to compete. Their's no doubt that he's made mistakes, but the guy hates to lose. Good luck with that. The only team in baseball who has been more competitive than the Sox in the current decade is maybe the Yankees, and some people still think KW is a crappy GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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